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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2007, 06:02:27 pm »
I will also put salt down if its looking like its gonna freeze.

 I didnt put salt down before I went WFP because I never left his amount of water on the floor :-\

Altho........  I like the idea of the brush.


Bob
Exactly my point Bod.
It's going really p*ss people off.

Rog at one point you used to be amusing ....now the more nonesense you spout the bigger fool you make me feel you are.

I think the best bet for me is to leave you be and not try to have any dialogue with you.

Dave.
I haven't said any nonsense.
I hope a customer doesn't skid on your lovely grit...
Squeaky, not every one thinks the same as you m8, what you are saying is that it would p you off, maybe all of your customers will be happy, again I say think out of the box.

Bobs Window Cleaning

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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2007, 06:03:48 pm »
Suppose the best way is to ask the customer before you lay the salt.

Im sure they would prefer salt to a slippery surface. The salt will dissolve anyway so it wont be messy.


Bob

Ps Can we all try and stop pssin each other off.
Why oh Why did he spell my name as bod & not bob on my wedding invites.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2007, 06:06:47 pm »
Alright, don't bother then. ::)

All I asked was what to do about it, and I only got 1 answer!
Cheers DaveW.

trevor perry

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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2007, 06:08:43 pm »
most customers dont mind the salt but the slugs can get a bit snotty about it ;D
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Bobs Window Cleaning

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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2007, 06:13:23 pm »
Hey Rog.

Do you sometimes wonder if its worth posting on here?
Why oh Why did he spell my name as bod & not bob on my wedding invites.

simon knight

Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2007, 06:16:23 pm »

Now now girls....bad day? ;D

Now listen very carefully as i will say this only once....

It's cold...it's icy...Jack Frost is all around....footpaths are slippery....

....sensible people tread warily whether the w/c has been or not...

Or are your customers simpletons?

Mike_G

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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2007, 06:17:24 pm »
Tell the customer that the water could turn to ice at some stage if it gets cold and therefore they should be careful if they need to venture outside. But if it does get that bad, I would be off home after all the last thing any of us need is claims direct and the like on our case.

jeff1

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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2007, 06:24:03 pm »
I see what your saying squeeks, the road rock salt will look a little messy on someones path.
what I did was to go to tesco's and buy a large bag of cooking salt, lightly sprinkle this on the path, no ice and no mess to look at.

simon knight

Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2007, 06:28:55 pm »
Tell the customer that the water could turn to ice at some stage if it gets cold and therefore they should be careful if they need to venture outside. But if it does get that bad, I would be off home after all the last thing any of us need is claims direct and the like on our case.

Spot-on Mike. Mind you the custy would have an impossible task proving it was "your" bit of ice he/she slipped on!

What's more important is US slipping on the ice and breaking wrists, elbows etc...

Had a trip today concentrating on the glass rather than where i was stepping...no real damage except a twisted ankle :(

Spruce

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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2007, 06:32:25 pm »
Hi
I've been told that ordinary road salt will damage customer's paving.
Spruce.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

s.hughes

Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2007, 07:26:15 pm »
Thing is, If its that icey then wouldnt the water freeze in the tube and on the brush before it even hit the floor?

Steve

Davew

Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2007, 07:34:50 pm »
I reckon if it's that cold the custy won't be galloping around the garden much, but they will need to use the front path and so will everyone else, so with the kind of society we live in now we will soon get the blame if someone skates and breaks a leg etc. I like Jeffs idea but i might be raiding one of those yellow grit bins soon - just in case. The way i see it most houses will have a problem area a couple of feet in front of the front door and maybe the garage?

matt

Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2007, 07:40:16 pm »
rog

this is what i have done

if its really cold, stay home, who wants to work in that kind of temp

i normally start a little later than the norm, i wait till the sun comes out and then the temp creeps up ( anything above 2 C and ive found its ok )



Sir Squeaky

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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2007, 07:48:46 pm »
rog

this is what i have done

if its really cold, stay home, who wants to work in that kind of temp

i normally start a little later than the norm, i wait till the sun comes out and then the temp creeps up ( anything above 2 C and ive found its ok )



Oh, absolutely Matt.
I'll just skip it.

I just meant if it was worst case, and it went on for days.(admittedly doubtful)

Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2007, 07:56:04 pm »
rog

this is what i have done

if its really cold, stay home, who wants to work in that kind of temp

i normally start a little later than the norm, i wait till the sun comes out and then the temp creeps up ( anything above 2 C and ive found its ok )



if it is cold dont stay at home, get out to work, if your pipes freeze it is time to stop till they defrost, cold weather is part of our job, Matt only works part time (by choice) I have been working alot colder the 2C makes you filled beter when you work quicker  ;D

Mike_G

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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2007, 08:09:32 pm »
It is not just the temperature at the time you clean the window that is the issue, it is also the time it takes the water to dry, if it doesn't dry before it freezes and then someone goes for a burton on the ice you may get a letter from those people we all see on daytime tv ( claims direct and the like ).

matt

Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2007, 08:09:44 pm »
rog

this is what i have done

if its really cold, stay home, who wants to work in that kind of temp

i normally start a little later than the norm, i wait till the sun comes out and then the temp creeps up ( anything above 2 C and ive found its ok )



if it is cold dont stay at home, get out to work, if your pipes freeze it is time to stop till they defrost, cold weather is part of our job, Matt only works part time (by choice) I have been working alot colder the 2C makes you filled beter when you work quicker  ;D

BUT

working aprt time leaves little time to "catch up" i have a full round, thus a day off sets me back that day

im currently working 5 days a week ( well 4 and a 1/2 ) and it doesnt matter if it rains for 1 day, as i know i have extra days to catch up

i still stand by what i said, if its going to freeze, pack up and go home, i guess thats the advantage of not being a "slave to the wage"

matt

Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2007, 08:14:03 pm »
rog

this is what i have done

if its really cold, stay home, who wants to work in that kind of temp

i normally start a little later than the norm, i wait till the sun comes out and then the temp creeps up ( anything above 2 C and ive found its ok )



Oh, absolutely Matt.
I'll just skip it.

I just meant if it was worst case, and it went on for days.(admittedly doubtful)


i lost 3 days because of the cold last year AND i had a few late starts

before people call me a softy for not wanting to work in the cold

ive worked on roofs 4 and 5 storeys high and had slates stick to my hands and pull the skin off with the cold, ive also had the on-set of hyperthermia a few times when stuggling to get building jobs done by a dealine, so im not scared of a bit of cold, i just dont fancy it and too be honest i dont need it that much either

Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2007, 08:16:09 pm »
It is not just the temperature at the time you clean the window that is the issue, it is also the time it takes the water to dry, if it doesn't dry before it freezes and then someone goes for a burton on the ice you may get a letter from those people we all see on daytime tv ( claims direct and the like ).
you do know if you are talking about domestic houses, they employ you, they cannot make a claim against themselves. same goes if you hut yourself at there property you are there resonsibility (did you know that?)

Mike_G

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Re: Icy paths and patios.
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2007, 08:41:25 pm »
What if they have a visitor and they slip or indeed one of their kids slip? The visitor does not employ us nor do the customers children. Is it still down to the customers insurance to pay any potential claim or will thier insurance company chase our insurance company? Personally like I mentioned earlier when it gets and if it gets that cold I will be at home or maybe rubbing finger prints off the glass with my scrim.