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Alex Wingrove

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800l Tank
« on: November 06, 2007, 01:59:58 pm »
Hello

two questions is 800l too much water for a 2 man setup? could i get away with less?

if not can you tell me where i can get a 800l baffle tank from please ive seen 650l 900l and 1000l all baffled

would prefer 800l to shed off a few kilos in plastic

Thanks

Ian 31

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2007, 04:03:42 pm »
Hi

I think starting with 800l tank would be fine. you just need to go out and get more
work. if you got smaller tank and it picked up really fast then you would have said
to yourself i should have got bigger tank. Just fill it to your requirements.

regards
Ian 31

Alex Wingrove

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2007, 04:41:34 pm »
Ive got the work, just will be upgrading soon,

all that i need now is where to get one

Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 04:48:33 pm »
Hello

two questions is 800l too much water for a 2 man setup? could i get away with less?

if not can you tell me where i can get a 800l baffle tank from please ive seen 650l 900l and 1000l all baffled

would prefer 800l to shed off a few kilos in plastic

Thanks
Alex I have a 650 tank for two man set up, and have not yet ran out of water

Alex Gardiner

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 05:28:55 pm »
800 litre is about spot on for a large two man commercial set-up.

The only way we could provide this size of tank would be to have one custom made to your specification. It is more expensive though than buying standard size tanks.

Why not just buy a 900 litre and never fill it full.


Alex Wingrove

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 05:37:59 pm »
900 is too much water for 1250 payload, and its £300, dont wanna spend that on a tank, when the 650 is 200, i was maybe thinking buying a 800l ibc and baffling is that hard

oh btw how much are the 800l custom ones alex?

and how much are the 900l one, if its around £250 all in i will buy one

Paul Coleman

Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 05:57:24 pm »
Hello

two questions is 800l too much water for a 2 man setup? could i get away with less?

if not can you tell me where i can get a 800l baffle tank from please ive seen 650l 900l and 1000l all baffled

would prefer 800l to shed off a few kilos in plastic

Thanks

As you are talking about baffles I assume you mean a van mount rather than a static tank.  You should manage on 800litres a day for a 2 man setup but there may be days when you run out of water.  Probably better to have techniques for saving water.  Using microbore saves some compared to half inch hose.  Possible trigger on a pole setupo can help.  Maybe electronic flow controller.  Flow control valve at end of hose to switch off water while moving to another part of the building.  Working with a lower flow rate is usually OK but can sometimes be a false economy as you may need to spend longer on a window.  I have sometimes got through 600 litres on my own on a very busy day but as I have an 800 litre tank to myself, it has not been necessary to economise too much.

Alex Wingrove

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2007, 05:59:02 pm »
where did you get it from paul

i was talking about a 800l ibc to put in the van, and baffle it myself

but will have a static at home

Alex Gardiner

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2007, 06:04:56 pm »
WE can get hold of the 900 litre tank with full baffling. As you can see from the picture below it is a flat D shape tank. The cost would be £215 + £55(carriage) + VAT = £317.25
as there is not too much demand for this size they are still relatively expensive.

A custom flat 800 litre tank would cost about £400 including delivery, the advantage of this is that you could have it to your exact specification. If I was having a new set-up made I would go for a flat, twin outlet 850 litre tank custom made with matching drip trays for the hose reels.

You can get hold of 800 litre IBC for about £35 from a recycling depot add baffles and this will be even cheaper. A point to note with IBC tanks is that the framework around them is not suitable for restraining the tank in an accident.

Have you thought about just adding a second tank to your current set-up?

Alex Wingrove

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2007, 06:08:22 pm »
i dont have a setup at the moment just a backpack on a trolley

im starting with the tank its the one thing im not sure about atm, that and the facelift pole,

if it were you alex, and you needed a tank, what would you do,

remember i need enough for 2 guys, would 650 suffice and just carry some barrels if need be

how much would the drip tray cost,

im trying to keep the cost down, so far im at £1750 all in inc the pole, thats with a 650 from you

Alex Gardiner

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2007, 06:17:28 pm »
As you have just been working from a backpack and trolley I would imagine that a 650 litre tank would be more than sufficient.

In our domestic-round vehicle we have a 500 litre tank and this easily allows us to do a 2 man 5 hour work session. As long as you have pole control valves and do not let your poles waste water when not in use I would imagine that it will be more than enough. The only time that we need the 900 litre set-up is when we are doing a very large (170 apartments) commercial two man round.

I had a 2 reel drip tray made and it cost about £40 plus carriage. Not cheap but it looks the business and works very well. It has a 40cm front side that stops the dripping male connector on the side of the reel dripping anywhere but in the drip tray, the other sides are 10cm high.

Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2007, 06:32:19 pm »
why don't you put two 400ltr tanks together join the pipework up?

NWH

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2007, 06:36:04 pm »
I would get a flat tank,the upright ones leak when full.

cherubs cleaning

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2007, 06:37:23 pm »
etills.co.uk



jerry

Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2007, 06:42:07 pm »
My reel sits fixed on top of my 400l tank so I can pull it from either side door. I love things that are well designed and thought out. I know you are clever Alex and I bet your driptrays are good. But what I don't understand is my reel doesn't leak and never has done?

I do get slops out of my tank lid when I go round bends. When I put a brush back in I get some drips off that.

NWH

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2007, 06:45:27 pm »
I have minibore and used to use microbore and they have never ever leaked in the van ever,i see van pictures posted with them in and wonder why they have them,if anything the pole hoses leak more when winding them up between jobs.

Alex Wingrove

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2007, 06:49:53 pm »
Heres my plan,

At home want a

1000ibc
Merlin Ro and DI Polisher
Sub Pump

IN the Van

650-800l tank
2 flojet pumps 1 60psi 1 100psi
100m microbore and 60m microbore on 2 reels
10l DI
17' Xcel
24'  Facelift  CF
Battery and Charger
Fitting Kit and Protecta Kote

anyway i can improve that or save some money

NWH

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2007, 06:53:41 pm »
Make sure you get a pre filter with the merlin,some use a 20" with them.

Alex Wingrove

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2007, 06:54:53 pm »
a sediment one?

NWH

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Re: 800l Tank
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2007, 06:58:17 pm »
Yes,i know a guy in ireland that sells them already to plug in and go with hozelock fittings or john geust.The pre filter will save the membranes a bit,when making vast amounts of water with the merlin you must have a pre filter.There really designed to make a few litres and then turn them off.