[Majestic]

I would leaflet the whole row, if that included the ones that some one else did  not to worry. If he is doing a good job, they will keep him.If you do have to price some  and you dont under cut him dont worry about it .

( you do know the ones that I do )

[windowwashers]

if is was leafleting i would leaflet everywhere, I would not go out of why way to take work off others, it is quite easy to do but i dont work like that I know more and more window cleaners in my area we can help each other no need to back stab, you are asking for it back IMO if you do, i prefer to build a solid business built on quality and not price

[Neil_A]

I get leaflets through my door everyday, for pizza's, kebabs, Tesco's , Asda, Pc world , comet , halfords , wing Wong's the Chinese shop:)

They all all in compo with each other

Whats stopping all of us giving leaflets to all the same shops?

[d s windowcleaning]

just go for it mate

[Jason Atwell]

if is was leafleting i would leaflet everywhere, I would not go out of why way to take work off others, it is quite easy to do but i dont work like that I know more and more window cleaners in my area we can help each other no need to back stab, you are asking for it back IMO if you do, i prefer to build a solid business built on quality and not price

Window washers
What is with your statement, 'i prefer to build a solid basis on quality and not price'? ? ?

As i have said before i would not be purposely undercutting,

Plus you say that YOU WOULD LEAFLET EVERY WHERE!  but yet your insinuating that im going to back stab some one by leafleting shops? ? ?

You make no sense in this post, your just rambling on about yourself?

[windowwashers]

if is was leafleting i would leaflet everywhere, I would not go out of why way to take work off others, it is quite easy to do but i dont work like that I know more and more window cleaners in my area we can help each other no need to back stab, you are asking for it back IMO if you do, i prefer to build a solid business built on quality and not price

Window washers
What is with your statement, 'i prefer to build a solid basis on quality and not price'? ? ?

As i have said before i would not be purposely undercutting,

Plus you say that YOU WOULD LEAFLET EVERY WHERE!  but yet your insinuating that im going to back stab some one by leafleting shops? ? ?

You make no sense in this post, your just rambling on about yourself?

Question: WHO HAS OR WOULD LEAFLET SHOPS THAT SOMEONE ELSE ALREADY DOES?  that was the question and that was my reply, It was not aimed at you at all just a reply, if you took it the wrong way then I can only say sry.

the part about quality not price means: I do not ever go for low price work just to get a job, I offer quality in my work and that's the same for people that work for me. I do not want to work for less money just to get a job. (again this is not aimed at you, it is an explanation about my comment ok.

Building a solid business part: I have found over the years that people that go for price instead of quality are not loyal and are not good for a building a solid business, I could well be wrong, but thats IMO, again not aimed at you just what I think.

When I leaflet I put them everywhere yes, I would not think to myself oh that one has a cleaner that may not etc as it would take to much time, so they go out everywhere I am not interested in other window cleaners work, as there is plenty of new work out there.

you say I am rambling about myself, the question I  misread  so understand where you are coming from sry bout that m8:-[.

Text can be read many different ways I was not in anyway insinuating that you will back stab anyone. I was mearly saying that if you back stab someone you are asking for it back (you as in anyone)  not YOU Jason, I treat others as I want to be treated, this is the way I think.

I am very straight talking , if I have something to say I do, sometimes I am wrong sometimes I am right.

Hope that clears that up, again sry if in anyway you felt I was taking a swipe at you, I was not 

[Ian_Giles]

Leaflet and be happy, but don't expect much of a response for your efforts.

I do a huge amount of shops in my local town centre, more than any of the other window cleaners in Chepstow.

Some years back my closest rival in town (we don't get on) lost a couple of accounts to me.
This guy had worked for me in the past, and for some years after he went by himself he would often caretake my round while I was on holiday, so he knew all of the shops and other accounts I did in town.

Times passes and we have fallen out, he lost an account or two to me and in an effort to get back at me, he canvassed my entire commercial round.
He knew my prices, he knew most of the customers, but even though he offered to undercut me by a minimum of 50p (might sound only a little, but on a shop that is only £2.50 to begin with it is substantial) and was unable to pick up a single job.

If you want to pick up shops, don't just leaflet drop, call in and speak to the manager, give them a leaflet and offer your services...you might get lucky on one or two if they are dissatisfied with the service they are getting.
But you may also come across a new business that hasn't had the normal town centre window cleaners call on them, and you might get a toe hold that way.

The best way to get the work is when a shop closes down and a new shop opens, that is then fair game, just because one of the existing town centre window cleaners did the shop before, does not entitle them to assume the job is theirs when a new and different business opens up there.

Myself and the other window cleaners in Chepstow certainly work that way, and that is this guy I don't get on with, Squeeky, Tosh (not that he is particularly interested in shops) an old guy and one or 2 others that have the odd shop...

Shops are sought after....but are complete pants if you only have a couple of them...it takes years and years to build up a good number of them.

Just posting leaflets will get you nowhere in truth.

Ian

[Jason Atwell]

Like with most things every one has their own opinion, I will go through with it once i have drafted a letter to go with my flyer, and see where it gets me.

If it gets me no where then at least iv tried and will then poss try the approach ian mentioned of going in and speaking with the manager.

I have spoke about this with another window cleaner, and we have both heard that the main w/c on this street who bought the round 18 months ago, has an attitude problem, again this is only someones opinion, they may be totally wrong, and if thats the case, good luck to him.

I also got asked to price one, which was a butty shop, that he does, I gave them a quote, but was told it was the same as their paying now, so i said well thats my price and stuck to that so did not get the job.

I do have four shops currently, one on this street being boots, and i do each one weekly, i like the fact it gives me an early start mon to thurs!

No problem by the way ian (window washers)

[Majestic]

I have spoke about this with another window cleaner, and we have both heard that the main w/c on this street who bought the round 18 months ago, has an attitude problem

He does not speak to me , so go for it.
Any way what are you doing home at 2 oclock you do need more work

[Jon-scwindows]

a while ago maybe 12 months my area was quite dead, and i hardly saw people window cleaning anywhere, now i know of atleast 4 people that do it! i havent seen any wfpers yet though seems to be blokes carrying ladders around on there shoulders....
      make friends with the shop keepers, go in there to get your chocolate bars, and have a quick chat each time, then ask if if they could do with a window cleaner. They are more inclined to have your services if they know you well, or are a frequent customer.

im trying to get a local school now and a few high street shops, houses etc, its not easy though.

[Jason Atwell]

I have spoke about this with another window cleaner, and we have both heard that the main w/c on this street who bought the round 18 months ago, has an attitude problem

He does not speak to me , so go for it.
Any way what are you doing home at 2 oclock you do need more work

JEALOUS!!