[Jason Atwell]

Obviously most shops already have a window cleaner,

I am just starting to put a letter/ flyer together to specifically target shops, and was trying to put myself in the shop managers shoes and think what i can offer him/her  that they dont  already get.
 
Ok, if the current window cleaner is no good or unreliabe or bad attitude etc, the manager may be looking for a new cleaner, but if he is just ok?

The shop owner may look on it as better the devil you know and stick with what he's got.

So what can i do to increase my chances? does anyone have any success stories?

thanks jase

[NWH]

The manager will think about the price and then think about the price again.

[Jason Atwell]

I dis agree to a certain extent NWH as if this was the case, all the shops would look crap cause the local   pot would be doin them when he could stand!

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

So you wanna nick work off another cleaner?

You're sure to get some problems buddy. Believe me, Ive seem window cleaners in Norwich having a right ol bust up cos of this.


Bob

[Jason Atwell]

So you wanna nick work off another cleaner?

You're sure to get some problems buddy. Believe me, Ive seem window cleaners in Norwich having a right ol bust up cos of this.


Bob

How am i nicking work, dint know it belonged to someone!
If someones doing a good job they have nothing to worry about do they!!!

[Andy@w.c.s]

Same as in Taunton
even down to fighting in the morning
slashing tyres and to be honest who need the hassle
all for a few shops who will drop you for a cheaper quote
leave them be there are bigger fish to fry

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

So what will you do if you go to a shop and they say they have a cleaner already?

You state "Ok, if the current window cleaner is no good or unreliabe or bad attitude etc"

To me thats asking for trouble

[Jason Atwell]

How is leafleting shops different to leafleting houses, most houses who want a w/c already have one, but most people still leaflet these?

[Jason Atwell]

So what will you do if you go to a shop and they say they have a cleaner already?

You state "Ok, if the current window cleaner is no good or unreliabe or bad attitude etc"

To me thats asking for trouble

All im gonna do is send a letter and see what happens, if they contact me, alls fair!

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

Dont get me wrong guv, Im not having a dig.

Its no different to houses but shops cause more probs than houses IMO.

Its fine to leaflet the shops but as you said in your earlier post most already have a cleaner. Not sure if this is the case with houses tho.


Bob

[Jason Atwell]

bod, know what your saying,

but at the end of my street is a big long road full of shops, and i like getting up and gettin an early start so i can finish early and enjoy whats left of the day, with my young family.

So some of these would be perfect for me.

[Wayne Thomas]

It's alright doing shops if you have plenty of them close by otherwise it's not worth falling out with another window cleaner over cheap prices just to get the odd shop unless they are on the outskirts in little hamlets, villages,etc.

I had McDonalds and Pizza Hut ask me to give them quotes and when they told me what their present window cleaners were charging I laughed my head off and declined to give quotes. You're better off doing domestic houses than cleaning the odd shop

[xxmattyxx]

I dis agree to a certain extent NWH as if this was the case, all the shops would look crap cause the local p i s s  pot would be doin them when he could stand!

 

[brightnclean]

Boy oh Boy are u askin for trouble  

You say yourself u are gonna try and offer services the present cleaner can't offer so basically you are trying to get the other guy out. I don't know how long u've been a window cleaner but shop work is very highly valued and very hard to come by and also very competetive. It can go for up to 20 times clean value or even more. A shop owner or manager wont put up with bad service so the present cleaner will be doing a good job at an already very competetive price.

I hope you are beginning to see where actively trying to muscle in on this work might lead you  

[Jason Atwell]

I dis agree to a certain extent NWH as if this was the case, all the shops would look crap cause the local p i s s  pot would be doin them when he could stand!

 

This means if the shop manager was only interested in the cheapest quote, then the person doing the windows would quite possibly be addicted to special brew!

[Jason Atwell]

Boy oh Boy are u askin for trouble  

You say yourself u are gonna try and offer services the present cleaner can't offer so basically you are trying to get the other guy out. I don't know how long u've been a window cleaner but shop work is very highly valued and very hard to come by and also very competetive. It can go for up to 20 times clean value or even more. A shop owner or manager wont put up with bad service so the present cleaner will be doing a good job at an already very competetive price.

I hope you are beginning to see where actively trying to muscle in on this work might lead you  

The only service i would be trying to offer is that of a top quality service, if some one else is already doing this, then my flyer will go in the bin, and i would not be purposefully undercutting anyone.

[xxmattyxx]

I dis agree to a certain extent NWH as if this was the case, all the shops would look crap cause the local p i s s  pot would be doin them when he could stand!

 

This means if the shop manager was only interested in the cheapest quote, then the person doing the windows would quite possibly be addicted to special brew!

and.......?

[Jason Atwell]

It's alright doing shops if you have plenty of them close by otherwise it's not worth falling out with another window cleaner over cheap prices just to get the odd shop unless they are on the outskirts in little hamlets, villages,etc.

I had McDonalds and Pizza Hut ask me to give them quotes and when they told me what their present window cleaners were charging I laughed my head off and declined to give quotes. You're better off doing domestic houses than cleaning the odd shop

Wayne,
Why is it ok if they are in the outskirts or a hamlet?

And why were mcdonalds and pizza hut telling you what there current W/c charges?

[Jason Atwell]

I dis agree to a certain extent NWH as if this was the case, all the shops would look crap cause the local p i s s  pot would be doin them when he could stand!

 

This means if the shop manager was only interested in the cheapest quote, then the person doing the windows would quite possibly be addicted to special brew!

and.......?

AND?.......

[brightnclean]

The whole point about shop work in a town is that it's one shop after another all close together in a street. OK the prices arent great but it's usually done early in the morning and they can be done quickly which all adds up. Also most of them are weekly or even twice weekly. A "run" of shops is worth a great deal. The odd one in a hamlet is hardly worth bothering with.