[xxmattyxx]

but does that mean you can fill a jacuzzi with a bowel

Just trying to get my head round this one

      

[steve m]

they're also banning filling jacuzzies, swimming pools and even kids paddling pools

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

So if a ban was put in place for wfp or wfp and trad, would the water board have to pay compensation for loss of business?

Simon.

[windowwashers]

they're also banning filling jacuzzies, swimming pools and even kids paddling pools

That is classed as a luxury working is not

[Joe H]

It may say with hose pipe, but does that mean you can fill a jacuzzi with a bowel,

What a horrid thought - filling a jacuzzi with a BOWEL - not a nice thing to do!

(We know what you mean - just looks funny)

[Neil271052]

To be honest I have thought in the past that pressure may be put on WFP users during drought conditions here in the South east where I live.

They do use an awful lot of water.

Last year I wasn't allowed to fill up my swimming pool during the hosepipe ban so I did it early this year and managed to go in it about 3 or 4 times due to the rotten weather and so much rain. 

Actually Neil, we don't use that much water at all.
 You may feel as if yo uare using gallons and gallons of water, on average it takes 3000 litres of tap water to produce 1000 litres of pure water (yes, I know there are systems out there far more efficient than that, but most don't have the big expensive systems).
But on average, judging by the majority of replies I've seen on the subject on here, most of us use about 300 litres of pure per day.
So lets say that is a total water consumption of approx 1000 litres per day, so roughly 5000 litres per week.
Not counting the big cities, in an average sized town of....what...15-20,000 people? There may be 20 window cleaners, if 15 of them are now WFP (doubtful) thats about 75,000 litres per week....
Phew...doesn't that sound like a lot of water??
Compare that to a brewery, a car manufacturer, a soft drinks producer and just about any large factory and its just a drop in the ocean (pun intended ) they will go though millions of litres per day.
Hopefully this will be aimed at domestic use, but I've got my doubts on that, but even one single household that is watering the garden overnight with a sprinkler will go through at least double the 5000 litres that our Mr average WFP'er will go through in a full week!

So you have to try and take WFP water use in context...we really don't make much difference at all, not that the authorities will take any notice of that though will they??

Ian

I agree, the authorities won't take much notice. 

The people in power including water authorities can always be relied on for knee jerk reactions.

However with the climate change that is happening I think there could well be more legislation about the way water is used in the future.

I can't ever remember a wetter summer before though. 

[NWH]

What a load of B0110ck5,it`s another excuse to charge more for water it`s as simple as that.

[windowwashers]

What a load of B0110ck5,it`s another excuse to charge more for water it`s as simple as that.

when a ban takes affet the water companies have a right to introduce more water meters, this in turn cuts down the amount of wasted water, i myself had a water meter fitted by choice, I pay my way, it is the people that are not on them that may need to think a little harder when leaving there garden hose watering the garden all night, these are the just one of the reasons we fall short somethimes and this ban is changing people that are not on a meter just dont care, and I have seem a few posts on here from others that are guilty of this, most will have heard this saying "i'm not on a water meter" we guys this will change in time trust me  .

[NWH]

I can`t see them saying that`s it WFP is banned and that`s it,it wasn`t long ago health and safty were moaning about us using ladders,to say that come april it will be banned is hard to beleive.I hope not anyway LOL.

[pjulk]

Not this again .........................

To be honest im not have anyone tell me how im going to work.

If i want to use WFP i will and if i want to clean traditional i will.

I don't care what the health and safety exec or the water board say any more.

Still i am not worried as its not going to affect me as i won't let it affect me


Paul

[Russell Macdonald]

The ammount of water the Water Authorities draw compared to what the supply is 50%. 

That is one hell of alot of leaks, so before they tell me i'm out of work they can get their own house in order.

Also how can there be a shortage of water when they want tens of thousands of home built, they want their cake & eat it.

[Londoner]

During the last hosepipe ban I couldn't use a hose to clean my Taxi, But I could (and did!) drive a mile down the road to the local hand car wash and pay a load of assylum seekers £5 to clean it with a pressure washer.

How is that right? They used thousands of gallons of water a day

[DASERVICES]

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2007/10/23/drought-rule-to-ban-window-cleaning-55578-19992171/

[NWH]

That report is saying that householders can`t clean there windows or fill there pond,it dosen`t say they can`t pay a company to come and clean them for them.I can`t see them banning us as pro WCS that do it for a living,if they do i`ll 5h17 on the step of 10 downing street.

[DASERVICES]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/10/23/eadrought123.xml

[paulp]

Hosepipe law could threaten window cleaners
By Graham Tibbetts
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 23/10/2007



The livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of window cleaners could be threatened by a tough new hosepipe law, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

Under a Government proposal to tackle future droughts, it would be illegal to use hosepipes for a number of activities, from filling swimming pools to cleaning windows.

Up to half the nation's estimated 400,000 window cleaners have recently dispensed with the traditional bucket and sponge in favour of a ladder-free system of poles which relies on hosepipes.

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Andrew Lee, vice-chairman of the Federation for Window Cleaners, said: "It's going to be disastrous if we are included in the ban. I can't encourage people to break the law but that's what these boys are going to be faced with."

The concern follows moves by the Government to update the 62-year-old drought legislation, which only restricts the use of hosepipes for watering gardens and washing cars.

The new law would allow water companies to enforce a "discretionary use" ban, outlawing virtually all domestic activities involving hosepipes.

Window cleaners, under pressure from health and safety legislation which discourages the use of ladders, have been converting their businesses to water-fed poles.

The cleaners fill a tank in their van with mains water via a hosepipe.

The water is piped from the van to a brush on the end of the pole, allowing cleaners to wash windows up to 60ft high without ladders.

Mr Lee, who has a business in Cumbria, said many cleaners had spent around £15,000 upgrading to the new system.

"To go down the water-fed pole route you're looking at a Transit van with a 650-litre tank that has to be fitted.

Then you've got poles that cost £1,000 apiece. A lot of people have taken out loans to finance the transition," he said.

A spokesman for the Department for Environment Food and Rural Affairs confirmed that water-fed poles would be covered by a hosepipe ban under the law but said: "Window cleaners could still revert to a bucket and sponge."
 

[Sir Squeaky]

Up to half the nation's estimated 400,000 window cleaners have recently dispensed with the traditional bucket and sponge in favour of a ladder-free system of poles which relies on hosepipes.

Up to HALF?

I doubt it's anywhere near a quarter.
There's small set-ups with a ladder and bucket everywhere you look.

Talk about exaggerating for a story! :

[Moderator David@stives]

400'000 ? ?  ?  ? 

[Sir Squeaky]

Oh yeah, forgot that.
That makes it up to 200,00 wfp users.

Alex must be coining it in Cornwall!

[windowwashers]

400'000 ? ?  ?  ? 

thats a bonus I thought there were more like 200,000 so makes me finding 1000 window cleaners to have a website even easier  

they also state that it is a ban on domestic, I am classed as a commercial business so does it affect me? from what they say the answer is no, now if a domestic guy buys a wfp for his house then he cant use it.