[jeff1]

Another useless tip for you.

When I changed to wfp last December, I noticed one of the problems with windows were the snail trails, when I was trad it was easy to remove them.

I found wfp was a little more harder to remove them, at first I stood there and scrubbed the windows until the trails finally disappeared, this sometimes took ages to complete a window that was full of them.

I started to study my own method and found that after a wash with pure water the trail had not been removed completely, although once it dried there was no trace of the trail, but I was still not a happy chappie, knowing I had not removed these trails completely, I never knew if the customer could see later if the sun shone through the window, so I used to do the ducking and diving routine but still I couldn't be sure they would show up later after I had gone.

After spending the past few weeks of studying these trails, I discovered the fastest and easiest way to remove them completely.

Instead of scrubbing this way and that way, Take a look at the trail and note the direction of the trail travel, I used to spend time scrubbing across the whole width of the trail until I reached the end, until one day, I decided to try it in the opposite direction?
If the trail say runs from left to right (or right to left, for the funny ones amongst you)  Take your brush and run your brush  along the length of the trail a couple of times and you will find the trail disappears completely and with very little effort, don't ask me why this works I just know it does. 

[Dean Aspects]

Jeff you really are a mind of useless information 
Only kidding will give that a try as i seem to get that alot at the moment and i too dont like leaving the snail trails behind

Dean

[Davew]

I'm thinking of carrying a sack full of slug pellets.

[dudek]

Brilliant , that is one of those things that has bugged for a while wil give that a go on monday.

[mike richardson]

funny u shud say about snail trails ,

i sacked a lad on tuesday for leaving 3 windows coverd in them.

also on  monday his windows were covered in  catterpiller tracks left on glass.

he said he dident see them lol.

he wont see them anymore he he

[Moderator David@stives]

Another useless tip for you.

When I changed to wfp last December, I noticed one of the problems with windows were the snail trails, when I was trad it was easy to remove them.

I found wfp was a little more harder to remove them, at first I stood there and scrubbed the windows until the trails finally disappeared, this sometimes took ages to complete a window that was full of them.

I started to study my own method and found that after a wash with pure water the trail had not been removed completely, although once it dried there was no trace of the trail, but I was still not a happy chappie, knowing I had not removed these trails completely, I never knew if the customer could see later if the sun shone through the window, so I used to do the ducking and diving routine but still I couldn't be sure they would show up later after I had gone.

After spending the past few weeks of studying these trails, I discovered the fastest and easiest way to remove them completely.

Instead of scrubbing this way and that way, Take a look at the trail and note the direction of the trail travel, I used to spend time scrubbing across the whole width of the trail until I reached the end, until one day, I decided to try it in the opposite direction?
If the trail say runs from left to right (or right to left, for the funny ones amongst you) Take your brush and run your brush along the length of the trail a couple of times and you will find the trail disappears completely and with very little effort, don't ask me why this works I just know it does.

I think someones been drinking to much sherry

[Village Gleam]

It's a good tip keep them coming. as the chap said above funny you should say that. You can certainly tell from the replies who works on the tools and who swans about and who's a townie and whos rural,

You are saying go at them length ways and they break down easier. I certainly have had a few lately and like you wondered if they showed up once i'd gone.

Changing subjects slightly on the other ww system post Dave has put a apwc sticker up.
I want to join , but i am bit short and not properly insured yet, although I'm sure I will do within a few months. But what took my interest was the lovely little lap top behind the sticker. I have a laptop as well as a pc but my laptop is 17' mega heavy and the batteries only last just over an hour.
I want something I can use for george, and I'm guessing that's what it's for. When I went to pc world the man told me that people are getting these instead of pda's. Am I right?

[Moderator David@stives]

I deal with them every single day, and there are no short cuts, sometimes it is far easier just to get you squeegie and applicator out.

Dave

[Paul Coleman]

Another useless tip for you.

When I changed to wfp last December, I noticed one of the problems with windows were the snail trails, when I was trad it was easy to remove them.

I found wfp was a little more harder to remove them, at first I stood there and scrubbed the windows until the trails finally disappeared, this sometimes took ages to complete a window that was full of them.

I started to study my own method and found that after a wash with pure water the trail had not been removed completely, although once it dried there was no trace of the trail, but I was still not a happy chappie, knowing I had not removed these trails completely, I never knew if the customer could see later if the sun shone through the window, so I used to do the ducking and diving routine but still I couldn't be sure they would show up later after I had gone.

After spending the past few weeks of studying these trails, I discovered the fastest and easiest way to remove them completely.

Instead of scrubbing this way and that way, Take a look at the trail and note the direction of the trail travel, I used to spend time scrubbing across the whole width of the trail until I reached the end, until one day, I decided to try it in the opposite direction?
If the trail say runs from left to right (or right to left, for the funny ones amongst you) Take your brush and run your brush along the length of the trail a couple of times and you will find the trail disappears completely and with very little effort, don't ask me why this works I just know it does.

I think someones been drinking to much sherry

I think he's suffering from shellshock myself.

[Sir Squeaky]

Quick wipe with your wet cloth, carry on as you were.

Even quicker than getting the squeegee on it.

[Village Gleam]

Do you have any tips shiner?

I have one- it's not brilliant-. One of my competitors spoke to me on Friday, I have been aware of him for months and was foreboding. He's fully ioniced up,clear choice, got all them cherry picker things etc and has a thermo pure system and the literature and signwritten van that goes with it.
Anyway he spoke to me and was really nice. He showed me inside his van and it was fantastic- he turned his tap on and it came out hot. He even offered me some work on a big job at day rate.
He looked at my van too, I mentioned Gardiners (ain't I a name dropper), ah yes gardiner pole systems he shot back, he had never seen a fan jet before abnd he and his workers thought they were good. He was complimentary about my 400l cleantech tank and pump etc.
Anyway my tip, I have one of them rock climbing carbinarri things on my belt that i put my hose in so the tap is always close and if I walk the hose comes with me.
He said he thought this was a good idea. That's my tip.

[windowwashers]

Do you have any tips shiner?

I have one- it's not brilliant-. One of my competitors spoke to me on Friday, I have been aware of him for months and was foreboding. He's fully ioniced up,clear choice, got all them cherry picker things etc and has a thermo pure system and the literature and signwritten van that goes with it.
Anyway he spoke to me and was really nice. He showed me inside his van and it was fantastic- he turned his tap on and it came out hot. He even offered me some work on a big job at day rate.
He looked at my van too, I mentioned Gardiners (ain't I a name dropper), ah yes gardiner pole systems he shot back, he had never seen a fan jet before abnd he and his workers thought they were good. He was complimentary about my 400l cleantech tank and pump etc.
Anyway my tip, I have one of them rock climbing carbinarri things on my belt that i put my hose in so the tap is always close and if I walk the hose comes with me.
He said he thought this was a good idea. That's my tip.

I will try that tomorrow VG, I have been tripping and standing on mine all day (and its getting dirty

[Paul Coleman]

Do you have any tips shiner?

I have one- it's not brilliant-. One of my competitors spoke to me on Friday, I have been aware of him for months and was foreboding. He's fully ioniced up,clear choice, got all them cherry picker things etc and has a thermo pure system and the literature and signwritten van that goes with it.
Anyway he spoke to me and was really nice. He showed me inside his van and it was fantastic- he turned his tap on and it came out hot. He even offered me some work on a big job at day rate.
He looked at my van too, I mentioned Gardiners (ain't I a name dropper), ah yes gardiner pole systems he shot back, he had never seen a fan jet before abnd he and his workers thought they were good. He was complimentary about my 400l cleantech tank and pump etc.
Anyway my tip, I have one of them rock climbing carbinarri things on my belt that i put my hose in so the tap is always close and if I walk the hose comes with me.
He said he thought this was a good idea. That's my tip.

Well I haven't got any tips specifically about snail trails but I have made little adaptations to the way I work as time has gone by.
One thing that I did was to set up a much longer piece of hose between my van system and the hosereel.  By doing so, it meant that the patch piece could span most footpaths.  This enabled me to cover it with a rubber mat for safety reasons.  When I used a shorter piece, I needed to run the hose out as far as I needed it before I could cover it.  This meant leaving hose across the path unattended.  Very simple but a much better way of working IMO.  I prefer not to work from a hosereel fixed in the van for this reason.

[Paul Coleman]

Do you have any tips shiner?

I have one- it's not brilliant-. One of my competitors spoke to me on Friday, I have been aware of him for months and was foreboding. He's fully ioniced up,clear choice, got all them cherry picker things etc and has a thermo pure system and the literature and signwritten van that goes with it.
Anyway he spoke to me and was really nice. He showed me inside his van and it was fantastic- he turned his tap on and it came out hot. He even offered me some work on a big job at day rate.
He looked at my van too, I mentioned Gardiners (ain't I a name dropper), ah yes gardiner pole systems he shot back, he had never seen a fan jet before abnd he and his workers thought they were good. He was complimentary about my 400l cleantech tank and pump etc.
Anyway my tip, I have one of them rock climbing carbinarri things on my belt that i put my hose in so the tap is always close and if I walk the hose comes with me.
He said he thought this was a good idea. That's my tip.

Oh yes.  Another thing.  I've decided to bite the bullet and go for a Superlight II modular pole.  I now have a few jobs where this would make my life a lot easier.  I do have trouble accepting deliveries here (flat with timelocked front door and live on my own) so I'm getting it via Essentially Pure in Sussex.  They are close enough for me to collect it in person.
I've been wanting a longer lightweight pole for some time and have dithered about which one to get.  I have been using a heavy metal pole for some high work but I find it can be awkward for my shoulder sometimes.

[jeff1]

Probablly misread it so I deleted it? I'm sat her in agony

[Cleaner Windows]

I deal with them every single day, and there are no short cuts, sometimes it is far easier just to get you squeegie and applicator out.

Dave

real mans tools hehe

[FUN]

I agree with Squeaky Clean. Rub with wet scrim. Much more effective and quicker than using applicator.

[Cleaner Windows]

yup, thats what i do too, it works

[Ian_Giles]

I've always found snail snot a pain whether trad or WFP, done trad, half the time you don't know it's there until after you squeegee the window, then you have to faff about going over it again
WFP I find gets it off thoroughly, but you do have to scrub

I use a caribina too, mine is attached to some webbing which I leave permanantly attached to the hose, I just  loop the webbing over my head and away I go, just plugging in the pole hose when I get to the windows.
My tap is in the van between the pump and the tank (as against after it somewhere) and I leave it on a fixed setting as I rarely find I need to adjust my flowrate.
But having your main hose at your waist is such a bonus, a genuine timesaver.

Ian

[Tosh]

Snails have been prolific this year due to the wet Summer we've had; there's been a population explosion and this isn't just anecdotal evidence; I read it in the papers; so it must be true.

Personally, I don't really try too hard to remove them; I don't think you can see 'em unless you've got that 'low Sun in the sky'.  I can't remember seeing any snail trails on my own windows, and I do live in a place with windows; and lots and lots of snails; due to a decking area covered in climbing plants which is like Butlins for the snails.

I've not had any complaints anyway!