[ned]

Anyone had dealings with window cleaning systems the hot water systems add on looks good  cheers

[windowwashers]

Anyone had dealings with window cleaning systems the hot water systems add on looks good  cheers

I have good bunch of guys

[Village Gleam]

I'm lookking at this. Someone showed me their thermo pure and it was brilliant.

What's the address for this add on thingy?

[windowwashers]

I'm lookking at this. Someone showed me their thermo pure and it was brilliant.

What's the address for this add on thingy?

www.windowcleaningsystems.co.uk

[Village Gleam]

Looks good if it fits and the exhaust fumes aren't a problem 2.5k plus vat but I bet you could press them on this. Has anyone got one?

I think a hot system is a definite advantage. Better job, dries faster, customers prefer it, better in winter, has more common sence appeal to custies and commercial. So better marketing potential.

When I saw the thermo pure in action I was so jealous.

Has anyone any feedback on this?

[windowwashers]

Looks good if it fits and the exhaust fumes aren't a problem 2.5k plus vat but I bet you could press them on this. Has anyone got one?

I think a hot system is a definite advantage. Better job, dries faster, customers prefer it, better in winter, has more common sence appeal to custies and commercial. So better marketing potential.

When I saw the thermo pure in action I was so jealous.

Has anyone any feedback on this?

I had some one clean my house with a hot water system, and I done mine yesterday with a cold water I could not see any difference apart from mine left no spots  if a hot water system can go up a 100 meter hose and come out hot when hitting a brush which is cold I may get sold on the idea more

[EasycleanWindows]

I had some one clean my house with a hot water system, and I done mine yesterday with a cold water I could not see any difference apart from mine left no spots

Operator error then if your cold system left no sptos compared to the hot system. Hot pure water is more dense than cold water systems so it dries quicker ?

Do you wash up at home with cold water ?

[windowwashers]

I had some one clean my house with a hot water system, and I done mine yesterday with a cold water I could not see any difference apart from mine left no spots

Operator error then if your cold system left no sptos compared to the hot system. Hot pure water is more dense than cold water systems so it dries quicker ?

Do you wash up at home with cold water ?

hot water will be cold just after impact to glass, it will dry a little quicker, the difference is minimal as is the result from hot and cold cleaning.

you can wash up with cold water, we choose not to as it is harder work if greasey

[Wayne Thomas]

Hot water applied to the glass drys really quick. Cold water just sits there slowly evaporating whilst absorbing all the dust (sahara sand) carried in the wind resulting in re-cleaning windows from dissatisfied customers

[windowwashers]

Hot water applied to the glass drys really quick. Cold water just sits there slowly eveaporating whilst absorbing all the dust (sahara sand) carried in the wind resulting in re-cleaning windows from dissatisfied customers

wayne what happens when the hot water turns to cold while sat on the glass, or does it really dry that quick? I had hot on my house and to be honest the dry time is not really that much different from what i saw, still I am thinking of getting just the outlay has to justify it first

[Wayne Thomas]

It really does dry quick so perhaps your hot water was just luke warm

[windowwashers]

It really does dry quick so perhaps your hot water was just luke warm

may have been, I dont know, first impression on clean not that good, but i am open to be swayed 

you did your own didnt you? 

[Village Gleam]

Bear with me;
I thought your critisisms were good. Some of it was expediency on my part. I do have a problem with people wanting longer frequency cleans, and have took note of what ww and dave stives say on this (4wks is best) but as i am a relative start up I have gone with what I think is the future trend.
This is an old thread resurected, since then I now have a hot system.

What has struck me is the marketing. All of the system makers only want to market themselves. What use is it to have thermo pure or 02 on the side of your van, the only people who understand what it means are fellow windies.What if a more direct approach were tried?

When you sell something you are in theory supposed to  outline the benefits to the customer. The method (pure water) is not actually a benefit usually  to the customer. However;
This isn't always true. Dyson very nearly put hoover out of business with a bagless vacuum. Brilliant as the engineering may have been, the true brilliance was in the marketing. Right or wrong  people percieved that a bagless vacuum cleaner was better.

Hmmmmm......... Where does that leave us?

[Rogue Trader]

Be careful of window cleaning systems! .... i have bought a system from them and have had some problems (minor) and little support from them, there seems to be little or no responsibilty after money has changed hands ..... it also looks like they are not trading currently (web site doe snot work) - not too good for their freephone support guarantee!

[windowwashers]

Bear with me;
I thought your critisisms were good. Some of it was expediency on my part. I do have a problem with people wanting longer frequency cleans, and have took note of what ww and dave stives say on this (4wks is best) but as i am a relative start up I have gone with what I think is the future trend.
This is an old thread resurected, since then I now have a hot system.

What has struck me is the marketing. All of the system makers only want to market themselves. What use is it to have thermo pure or 02 on the side of your van, the only people who understand what it means are fellow windies.What if a more direct approach were tried?

When you sell something you are in theory supposed to  outline the benefits to the customer. The method (pure water) is not actually a benefit usually  to the customer. However;
This isn't always true. Dyson very nearly put hoover out of business with a bagless vacuum. Brilliant as the engineering may have been, the true brilliance was in the marketing. Right or wrong  people percieved that a bagless vacuum cleaner was better.

Hmmmmm......... Where does that leave us?

Mr S,

they do need to do alot more marketing for the open market IMO, I fully understand what you are saying and agree 100%

marketing is all to do with angles, I am quite good at them (big headed maybe but true) if suppliers of hot systems did this more would buy. Dyson is a classic example of what can be done if marketed in the right way. (and I think they are over priced and not that good)

I personally love different ways of marketing, at the mo i can market against hot if need be will not say how or why but it is all in the marketing this is how we gain new business at the end of the day.

Ian
p.s Mr S you going to windex I would love to meet and speak to you, i know i go against what you say sometimes, but we really do think alike in a business sence we just have different approches. (my spelling is not good but marketing rocks) 

future trend = marketing and 4 wkly is windows clean all of the time anything more then they want windows clean part of the time

[Village Gleam]

Probably wont go to windex although I have to pass it a lot.

My business plan for ww would be sell a package that people could trade under that included advice and giudance. The main ww site would list the participants by area. You would thus have potentially national coverage.
So for instance you would be window washers (cambridge).

For £500 you would get a van (you have to provide your own van) sign written in the ww livery.5,000 glossy double sided leaflets with a picture of the area 'person' against local icons indentifiable to the area(they provide the jpeg).

An advice and marketing support package, stationery required, and ww problem hotline.