[nat]

your getting me confused now Window wiper  :

i mean the dispatch not relay

[windowwashers]

your getting me confused now Window wiper  :

i mean the dispatch not relay

lol, it's window washers 

[nat]

exactly  :

[Moderator David@stives]

For those of you who are driving on the limit, dont forget you are still at risk of having one axle over the limit, the weights given for overall weight assume that your load is even over the full length of your van, to be safe allow 15% for uneven weight distribution.

If you have a 600 tank it will be about 650kilos full allowing for the weight of the tank itself.

Filter system including pumps etc 50kg  ?

hose reals 20kg times 2 = 40kg ?

ladders 40kg ? ?

2 people 150kg

misc squeegies , buckets , 50kg ?

ply lining 100kg

4 poles 20kg

fuel 80 kg full tank 80 litres

see you are already up to 1180kg allowing 15 % for the unseen (uneven loading, extra passenger etc)

you will need a payload of 1360kg assuming the above weights are true

[Moderator David@stives]

personally i would always allow 70 kilos per seat whether you work alone or not.

it is so easy to give someone a lift etc when you are fully loaded , so if your van has 3 seats allow about 200 kgs

[nat]

thanks dave this is the sort of answer i've been looking for

so from your calculation a simple 2 person setup would consist of

500 litres around 535kg

hose reals 20kg times 2 = 40kg ?

no filters as the water goes into the tanks at 000ppm

no ladders

2 people 150kg

misc squeegies , buckets , 50kg ?

no plylining

so this should be taking us fully loaded into the regieon of 775kg plus 15% = around 120kg we are coming in under the 900kg, it is pretty maxed out but i belive the weights are pretty generous.

what do you think?

[Moderator David@stives]

The weights are probably generous , all just guess work apart from the tank which is pretty much spot on.

dont forget poles , roughly 3-6 kg per pole ?

I think Ian lancaster took his van to a weigh bridge last year maybe he will had to this.

Maybe we could start a thread giving true weights ie , the true weight of a 100m micro bore complete on a reel , full of water, weigh a 10 litre bucket full of water and squeegies.

Dave

[nat]

would be handy that wouldn't it? knowing the exact weights of all our tools so we add up and be safe!

[windowwashers]

thanks dave this is the sort of answer i've been looking for

so from your calculation a simple 2 person setup would consist of

500 litres around 535kg

hose reals 20kg times 2 = 40kg ?

no filters as the water goes into the tanks at 000ppm

no ladders

2 people 150kg

misc squeegies , buckets , 50kg ?

no plylining

so this should be taking us fully loaded into the regieon of 775kg plus 15% = around 120kg we are coming in under the 900kg, it is pretty maxed out but i belive the weights are pretty generous.

what do you think?

you forgot the fuel 

[Moderator David@stives]

i will put fuel in now

[Moderator David@stives]

Crikey, looking at the above weights i am going to a weighbridge this week.

Does anyone live near a scrap yard or a weigh bridge who can just nip out ?

Dave

[nat]

mine always run on empty, can't afford to keep them full

[Moderator David@stives]

just weighed my reels

reel including 100m 6mm hose 20kg
reel including 100m 8mm hose 22.5kg

both weighed full of water

[nat]

thats was a good guess above then wern't it?

[Sir Squeaky]

mine always run on empty, can't afford to keep them full

Same here.

£90 to fill a Trafic!

[nat]

how many miles would you get out of that £90 squeaky?

[Moderator David@stives]

Whats the weight of ladders ?

[Sir Squeaky]

how many miles would you get out of that £90 squeaky?

Don't know, never going to try it am I?

£10 gets me about 60 miles, so I'd guess about 450-500 miles allowing for the extra weight of the fuel.

[nat]

about the same as the trannys, using them round town 60 miles at least, outta town 80 miles a tenner. they do seem to use a lot more when a full tank of water is in the back

[Paul Coleman]

how many miles would you get out of that £90 squeaky?

I have a Trafic.  It usually costs me a bit over £70 to fill up with about 70 litres (the tank holds 90 litres but I'm not prepared to run it down any further).  I do set the trip meter when I fill up to the brim and my £70 is usually good for 430 - 450 miles.  It looks like I could take it to 500 miles between fill-ups but the warning light is usually on around 430 miles.  I often travel with 600+ litres of water in the tank so that wouldn't help the consumption but apart from the weight, I do tend to drive in a way that keeps fuel use down (usually).  So if you reckon £70 is 430 miles then £90 would be about 550 miles.