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Grafters Cleaning Services

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getting more work (for newbies)
« on: September 13, 2007, 02:31:05 pm »
I thought I would just right a little piece on gaining more work, please note that is aimed at the newbies on this forum, I am not trying to tell the old hands how to suck eggs.

(1)   Presentation: smart van/car preferable sign written/mag signs stating your company name and what you do, clean fresh uniform, can include t-shirts, polo jumpers, hats et. Nice printed flyers/cards, again stating what you do (other services besides window cleaning)

(2)   Canvassing: go door knocking looking smart and be polite at all times even when turned down, do not apply pressure as this will never work, if a potential customer is humming and harring leave them a card and tell them to call you if and when they decide (this works better) if you drop leaflets off prior to calling this is fine but make sure that you follow up all leaflet drops by knocking a day or so later failure to do this will result in less jobs as the majority of people will put the card/flyer to one side and it will eventually get binned. If the person states they already have a w/c then thank them for their time and walk away DO NOT give them a price undercutting the other w/c as this is totally out of order and will not win you any friends.

(3)   Pricing: have in your  mind an hourly rate that you would like to achieve (eg £30 per hour) and stick with it DO NOT underprice as you will regret this later and DO NOT get into a price war with the customer, if you price this house @ £12-00 then stick with it DO NOT let the customer knock you back a few quid as you will also regret this.

(4)   Canvass on the move: this is a tried and tested system that my son and I use and works well, if we get a call to give a quote on a house and that is agreed then I proceed to clean whilst my son knocks the other doors in that same road. E.G. we had a call from one road where we had no other calls, there were 30 houses in this small road and whilst I cleaned the first my son knocked the others gaining 9 more calls all @ £10 each so we now have a third of that road covered.

(5)   Buying work: this always a dodgy one, I personally would never pay more than 2 times it’s worth, i.e I would buy £100 worth of work for £200 and not a penny more. Make sure if you buy from a previous w/c that you are introduced to the calls and have something in writing to state that you have bought the work and that the seller will not go back to the calls to try and regain them at a later date (I’m talking from personal experience here as it happened to me once)

(6)   Employing a canvasser: there has been a lot of threads on this forum with this reference (some good some bad) again tread carefully and be sure to set up agreed terms before parting with your money. I have a canvasser getting some work for me within the next week or so I will be able to keep you informed as how this goes as I have never used 1 before.

(7)   Setting your target/goals: each week we set a target of gaining at least 5 new customers, this week alone we have already gained 8 new calls without even trying, we have also moved fast this week and have a free day tomorrow so we will go canvassing to hopefully gain a few more. Lets assume you set a goal of 5 new ones every week @ £10 that would generate an extra income of  £200 (approx) per month, if you kept this on going within a year you would be either turning work away or employing someone to help you out.

(8)Being professional: it goes without saying that at all times conduct yourself in a professional manner whilst at a customers house or on the phone and you will be surprised as to how many recommendations  you will receive.

(9)   Advertising: I personally use yellow pages and it works well for me especially with the cleaning of gutters/facias etc. although it can be costly I find that I get about 5 leads a week from it most of them generating into monthly calls. I have tried the shops windows card etc but this failed for me (perhaps you know differently)

Finally if any other old hands would like to add to this it would be helpfull to the newbies :)
Jay
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

Trevor Knight

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2007, 02:44:23 pm »
Nice one Jay, postings like this are exactly the reason why so many people use this site!
Covering Hampshire, Dorset, Surrey, Berkshire

Grafters Cleaning Services

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2007, 03:03:51 pm »
Nice one Jay, postings like this are exactly the reason why so many people use this site!

thanx trevor, only too happy to help
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

Kwackers

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2007, 03:15:31 pm »
'Setting your target/goals' - I like it!

Thanks

jayclean

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2007, 03:39:31 pm »
Hi Jay

I am about to start canvassing next week and i have never knocked on doors before. I am a bit worried about the reaction i will get.
so thanks for writing you coments they will help me.

James

Trevor Knight

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2007, 03:51:41 pm »
Hi James,

Canvassing or doorknocking really is quite straight forward and easy.

Just be smart, polite and to the point, ask if they need a window cleaner, if yes give a price if not ask to leave your card in case they ever change their mind or their existing w/c stops calling.

Otherwise, it's a numbers game, we would all canvass ourselves if we had time but you can only be in one place at a time.

Good luck, I hope it goes well for you, ask as many questions as you need.
Trev
Covering Hampshire, Dorset, Surrey, Berkshire

pjulk

Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2007, 03:57:28 pm »
Get to know the other window cleaners in your area make a point of saying hello when you out working and come along one.
Most will speak back , Not many will ignore you if you make a point of saying hello
This way once they have got to know you may pass some work your way that they no longer want.


Paul

jeff1

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2007, 04:10:44 pm »
Excellent advice Jay ;)
Do you mind if I pinch a copy for the guide I wrote, at least this way it will be a Permanent reminder and not lost in a few days? I will inclued youre name in the thanks section.

Thats the only problem I can find with this forum, good advice like this is lost within a few days, and never put into a section for it to be found easily.

Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2007, 06:09:12 pm »

Finally if any other old hands would like to add to this it would be helpfull to the newbies :)
Jay

What a fantastic post, well done Jay, pat on the back there, if only all posts were as helpful  ;)
One thing missed  was a website  ;) this generates quite a few jobs, and easy pays for it's self from just 2 new customers.  :D makes them look more professional and give customers new an old an added contact point.

Grafters Cleaning Services

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2007, 06:27:05 pm »
Hi Jay

I am about to start canvassing next week and i have never knocked on doors before. I am a bit worried about the reaction i will get.
so thanks for writing you coments they will help me.

James
hi james, just take trevors advice (above) and should work fine and be confident  ;)
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

Grafters Cleaning Services

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2007, 06:27:41 pm »
Excellent advice Jay ;)
Do you mind if I pinch a copy for the guide I wrote, at least this way it will be a Permanent reminder and not lost in a few days? I will inclued youre name in the thanks section.

Thats the only problem I can find with this forum, good advice like this is lost within a few days, and never put into a section for it to be found easily.
no probs jeff
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

Grafters Cleaning Services

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2007, 06:28:49 pm »

Finally if any other old hands would like to add to this it would be helpfull to the newbies :)
Jay

What a fantastic post, well done Jay, pat on the back there, if only all posts were as helpful  ;)
One thing missed  was a website  ;) this generates quite a few jobs, and easy pays for it's self from just 2 new customers.  :D makes them look more professional and give customers new an old an added contact point.
good point and yes i do a website but i don't find that it generates a lot ???
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

jeff1

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2007, 06:31:46 pm »
Excellent advice Jay ;)
Do you mind if I pinch a copy for the guide I wrote, at least this way it will be a Permanent reminder and not lost in a few days? I will inclued youre name in the thanks section.

Thats the only problem I can find with this forum, good advice like this is lost within a few days, and never put into a section for it to be found easily.
no probs jeff
Thanks Jay   ;) ;)

Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2007, 06:41:39 pm »

Finally if any other old hands would like to add to this it would be helpfull to the newbies :)
Jay

What a fantastic post, well done Jay, pat on the back there, if only all posts were as helpful  ;)
One thing missed  was a website  ;) this generates quite a few jobs, and easy pays for it's self from just 2 new customers.  :D makes them look more professional and give customers new an old an added contact point.
good point and yes i do a website but i don't find that it generates a lot ???
if your website address is: http://www.grafterscleaning.co.uk/

it is not working this could be your problem m8, I can always help out  ;)

Grafters Cleaning Services

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2007, 07:23:31 pm »

Finally if any other old hands would like to add to this it would be helpfull to the newbies :)
Jay

What a fantastic post, well done Jay, pat on the back there, if only all posts were as helpful  ;)
One thing missed  was a website  ;) this generates quite a few jobs, and easy pays for it's self from just 2 new customers.  :D makes them look more professional and give customers new an old an added contact point.
good point and yes i do a website but i don't find that it generates a lot ???
if your website address is: http://www.grafterscleaning.co.uk/

it is not working this could be your problem m8, I can always help out  ;)
thanx for that, i have not checked it for a while, i think it may have expired and i'm not sure if it's worth renewing it
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

matt

Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2007, 07:37:33 pm »
Jay, can i cut and paste the article for the DIY forum :)

might help others

Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2007, 08:02:39 pm »
I know jay well and i can say his image is exceptional and his manner great, in the last year i would suggest he has doubled or nearly his business,

Well done jay and keep going :)

rgds, stuart

Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2007, 09:39:08 pm »

Finally if any other old hands would like to add to this it would be helpfull to the newbies :)
Jay

What a fantastic post, well done Jay, pat on the back there, if only all posts were as helpful  ;)
One thing missed  was a website  ;) this generates quite a few jobs, and easy pays for it's self from just 2 new customers.  :D makes them look more professional and give customers new an old an added contact point.
good point and yes i do a website but i don't find that it generates a lot ???
if your website address is: http://www.grafterscleaning.co.uk/

it is not working this could be your problem m8, I can always help out  ;)
thanx for that, i have not checked it for a while, i think it may have expired and i'm not sure if it's worth renewing it
Hi there,

send me an email with the problems you had with your site to design@windowwashers.co.uk

annoys the hell out of me when people just sell someone a website and it does not work for them or have no idea of the business, I maybe able to tell you what went wrong, I will be totally honest with you and straight to the point as I dont like beating round the bush I do design websites for window cleaners but I will not try and sell you one if you wanted one I would not turn it down though  ;)

Conflagration2000

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Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2007, 09:51:55 pm »
Great advice Jay, been W/C for just under a year and I'll be out there tomorrow with renewed confidence, thanks mate ;D
Just like that

Re: getting more work (for newbies)
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2007, 10:17:44 pm »
Very well thought through Jay / grafters, and very well explained. Perhaps you should do this for a living.

Window cleaners are a pleasant enought bunch. I can't help chuckiling at ww though, he doesn't give in does he?