[matt]

The pump manuf. now have built in by passes. So the box may not be required as you control the flow from a tap anywhere in the system.

i didnt know that jeff, so we dont need a by-pass now in the pump box, we can control the flow using a tap ?? ? ??

i guess they dont have pressure switches anymore, as wouldnt this burn it out ?? ? ??

[macmac]

To cut to the point & save endless dabate-
over 3 years ago i spent 200 quid on a pump box that i may have been able to build for less money.
This pump has never let me down, stopped working, given me one iota's woth of worry or even flinched in this time. it just plugs into the cig lighter, i can take it out of the van in winter in 5 seconds & put it back in the morning in another 5 seconds.
It's still going strong, still working as it did the first day i got it & probably will for some time to come.
I am no scientist, no inventor, no diy maniac, no ego trip nutter, just normal with enough common sense not to over-complicate things & listen to the right advise & not be taken in with any of the above.
Sort the good from the bad & get on with it
It's all so very simple, realy, it is.

tony

[dai]

The main drawback with WFP will always be water. It is so easy to come home with a few dirty scrims, and bits of towelling sill wipes, and chuck them into the machine.
The best thing about DIY WFP is that when it goes wrong, you know how to fix it.
Tesco brushes? I love them, do a brilliant job and are very light. Still have the Vykan brushes I started with, but they're gathering dust in the garage.
Some of us are inventive by nature. In consequence of this, we do spend a lot of time pottering in the shed. I made a brilliant swivel out of a Stanley paint pad holder the other week, it even lets you adjust the swivel action. Brilliant, but you couldn't buy one.
If starting off with WFP, I would recommend you start with a back pack. No matter how sophisticated a system you finally end up with, a backpack will always earn it's keep.
There are many drawbacks with WFP, but most of them can be overcome with good organisation. Still have to carry all that water though. Dai

[Jeff Brimble]

At the show guy from Flojet told me that the trade used their Duplex II demmand pump with built in pressure/demand switch but they had now brought out (Sureflo as well ) a two piston By-pass pump with unique internal bypass function. It doesnt need the pressure switch as the by pass is internal, so maybe we no longer need the control box ?
just the brush on a stick, a pump and water.

[Jeff Brimble]

And logically taking it further- no need for a variflow ?

[macmac]

At the show guy from Flojet told me that the trade used their Dulex II demmand pump with built in pressure/demand switch but they had now brought out (Sureflo as well ) a two piston By-pass pump with unique internal bypass function. It doesnt need the pressure switch as the by pass is internal, so maybe we no longer need the control box ?
just the brush on a stick, a pump and water.

Jeff
200 quid in over 3 years for something that has earned me over 80 grand!! are you missing my point a little?
I dont give a sjit about guys at shows etc. give me a reliable living

tony

[matt]

The pump manuf. now have built in by passes. So the box may not be required as you control the flow from a tap anywhere in the system.

i didnt know that jeff, so we dont need a by-pass now in the pump box, we can control the flow using a tap ?? ? ??

i guess they dont have pressure switches anymore, as wouldnt this burn it out ?? ? ??

At the show guy from Flojet told me that the trade used their Dulex II demmand pump with built in pressure/demand switch but they had now brought out (Sureflo as well ) a two piston By-pass pump with unique internal bypass function. It doesnt need the pressure switch as the by pass is internal, so maybe we no longer need the control box ?
just the brush on a stick, a pump and water.

Jeff
200 quid in over 3 years for something that has earned me over 80 grand!! are you missing my point a little?
I dont give a sjit about guys at shows etc. give me a reliable living

tony

tony
i think that reply was meant for me, as i asked about the pump pressure switch

[Jeff Brimble]

Tony,
I am lstening, thats why I am also asking as many questions as Luke  
 But maybe the next/tomorrows  systems wont need the £200 box ?
ps - I made mine from a couple of t junctions for £5 but not for everyone.

I am sure your steaming by now (been there done it) , we all know the best for us, but trying to get the info to others can be impossible, you can take a horse to water etc  

[macmac]

Who ever it was meant for matt, the point is still the same, come on man, look at the stats, have i been ripped off with my pump box?
come on, you know the truth, just tell it

tony

[Jeff Brimble]

Heres what Tony is on about, also got a review by Mathew http://www.cleantech.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_26&products_id=100
and the other box is in the pic here http://www.window-tools.com/moreinfo.htm

[macmac]

Tony,
I am lstening, thats why I am also asking as many questions as Luke  
 But maybe the next/tomorrows  systems wont need the £200 box ?
ps - I made mine from a couple of t junctions for £5 but not for everyone.

I am sure your steaming by now (been there done it) , we all know the best for us, but trying to get the info to others can be impossible, you can take a horse to water etc  

you're right jeff, good debate, i'm not daft, we all have differenses, i just hate the thought of people making the wrong decision etc. it's sometimes hard to make clear things in text on a forum, i always respect peoples input wether i agree with it or not ( though it may not appear that way )
Some things are more passionate to me than others because i was given bad advise when i first went wfp & it cost me big time in time wasted etc.
Just a thought, i think you calmed me down the last time i was having a rant, are you also some kind of scycologist

tony

[matt]

Who ever it was meant for matt, the point is still the same, come on man, look at the stats, have i been ripped off with my pump box?
come on, you know the truth, just tell it

tony

tony, the box is great, thats why i have recommended it to ALOT of people , that was before they added the varristream and its the same price )

even for a van mount, you need a tank in the van and that pump box, job done

its a great bit of kit

[Jeff Brimble]

No they used to call me psychodelic in the steel works hmm- wonder why.
Help must have altzimers how do you spell psyco  ?

[Jeff Brimble]

First correct spelling gets a pint 

[macmac]

Steel works
That's my origins

tony

[Jeff Brimble]

Mine got asset stripped and  got sold to Taiwan, was in the rolling mill at Brymbo.
Sorry to go off topic.

[Davew]

Jeff I owe you an apology........I'm sorry I listened to you in the past and took your advice and I now realise I shouldn't have - sorry.

[Jeff Brimble]

Whoops, Oh well I dont always get it right 
What did I get wrong ? 
Found it so I owe me a pint "psychedelic" but I cheated.

[Davew]

Nothing in my eyes 'bin using the Reload for ages now and love it - best advice I took so far.

[Jeff Brimble]

Try the Diy site "World pole" next then for 21ft telescopic 4fter