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Clear Vision

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Explain this!!! ???
« on: August 06, 2007, 08:11:37 pm »
I just changed my 3 pre filters today on my little ro unit.

But......... before I did that I bought a pressure gauge and fitted it to it to see wot my mains pressure was reading. 

It said 65 psi.

Now.........

Since I changed them its reading well over 100psi and is producing far more pure water!!! yipee

NWH

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Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 08:14:27 pm »
How long does it take you to fill your tank with that RO unit mate.

Clear Vision

  • Posts: 1908
Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2007, 08:22:26 pm »
It took 4 days before

But now I reckon it will fill in 2 and a 1/2 or 3. (I hope)

P.S. it fills into a 1000L ibc tank

D.Salkeld_Ltd

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Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2007, 09:46:31 pm »
Hi Matt,

How have you connected it up?

Like this:
Not Perfect - But Honest

Clear Vision

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Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2007, 09:47:29 pm »
Yes david.

Exactly like that!

D.Salkeld_Ltd

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Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2007, 09:51:05 pm »
Matt,

Does it read 100psi ALL the time?
Iff not.
What time of day did it read 100psi?


David
Not Perfect - But Honest

Clear Vision

  • Posts: 1908
Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2007, 09:55:54 pm »
Its reading over 100 psi all the time

When I replaced the filters and turned the tap on I watched it graduall creep up to over 100psi.

I dont know what to think?

D.Salkeld_Ltd

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Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2007, 09:58:30 pm »
Is the preasure gauge  before or after the pre filtres?
Not Perfect - But Honest

Clear Vision

  • Posts: 1908
Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2007, 09:59:22 pm »
After the pre filters and before the membrane

D.Salkeld_Ltd

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Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2007, 10:04:17 pm »

Only other thing I can think of is your filters are letting the water straight through. But iff they were not working you would have a leak?
So your preasure must be up???!!!

David
Not Perfect - But Honest

D.Salkeld_Ltd

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Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2007, 10:05:38 pm »
Matt,

Off to bed now ;D ;D

Ring me in the mornin iff you have any more Q's

David
Not Perfect - But Honest

Clear Vision

  • Posts: 1908
Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2007, 10:06:10 pm »
No leaks david!

Its a strange one?

What does that flow restictor do? Whats it for? Why do I need it?

Ok. speak soon


Matthew

KarlJones

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Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2007, 10:23:00 pm »
The flow restrictor basically creates back-pressure.  It is a bit like sticking your thumb over a hose pipe.  If the water is just flowing quite steady, and you stick your thumb over it, it creates a back pressure, so much that the water squirts out with force.  It is the same reason why we try to use small jets in our brushes, to create some extra pressure by restricting the flow.

long winded babble coming up...

The way an Osmosis works through a membrane is clean water moves over to dirty water.  When it does this it has the same effect as if higher pressure had been placed in the clean water side.  In other words the clean side reduces and the dirty water side increases.  Thats basically the osmosis effect.

Reverse Osmosis is the method of basically doing the opposite.  Naturally the clean water wants to move over to the dirty side (osmosis) but we stop it and reverse it, by applying pressure on the dirty side.  Thus making the amount of dirty water reduce and the amount of clean water increase.

The flow restrictors job is to increase the pressure on the dirty side by creating back pressure, effectively by reducing the flow stopping the water escaping (like your thumb on a hose)

There is a limit to which back pressure can be used, if back pressure is too high it can put too much pressure on the membranes and cause them to warp.  This warping reduces the life of the membrane.  In saying that, there is at least one person on this forum I believe who increases his back pressure with a tap on the waste of a 100 GPD system closed up a bit to get a 50/50 clean/waste ratio and he does not seem to have/mind the reduced life span of a membrane, I would probably go that route if I had 100 GPD too, at least unless it created problems with warping.

PS, I would expect the pressure after the pre filters to increase if they were changed.  Quite simply more water can now flow through the sediment filter than it could when it was blocked up.
You cannot plough a field by turning it over in your mind.

Clear Vision

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Re: Explain this!!! ???
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2007, 06:59:04 pm »
Thanks for that interesting reply.

Makes sense

 

Cheers