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leee

  • Posts: 32
how wet
« on: July 16, 2007, 04:59:27 pm »
hi there guys

how wet do you have your aplicater as when i see some window cleaners when they wet the window it looks like really sudsy and others it just looks as if they have only used water hardly any suds which is best i feel more sudsy as it actually looks like your cleaning them i cant seem to get many suds it always looks clear i use unger liquid?

any help please
LEEE C - WINDOW CLEANING

Paul Coleman

Re: how wet
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2007, 05:17:09 pm »
hi there guys

how wet do you have your aplicater as when i see some window cleaners when they wet the window it looks like really sudsy and others it just looks as if they have only used water hardly any suds which is best i feel more sudsy as it actually looks like your cleaning them i cant seem to get many suds it always looks clear i use unger liquid?

any help please

I use it as dry as I can get away with with just enough detergent for the squeegee to be able to slide.  Doing it this way helps to minimise on the detailing.  You will probably find yourself using it too dry on a hot day until you get as feel for it.
On bigger panes like shop fronts, I tend to use it a lot wetter though.  This is because any that runs down onto the surface below the window can be used by me to wipe the lower framework down anyway.  Also, I tend to use a pole (non WFP) for the higher part of a shopfront window.

Richy L

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Re: how wet
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2007, 05:46:01 pm »
if it is too dry it can leave marks. it looks find when you walk away, but when the sun shine through the window it shows marks all over it!

Spiceworld

  • Posts: 84
Re: how wet
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2007, 06:44:56 pm »
Wetter the better - but i do only do Commercial work at the moment.

But wouldn't dream of buying a 'Special' liquid. Good old Fairy liquid or Persil washing up liquid.

Richard

pjulk

Re: how wet
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2007, 08:00:50 pm »
Unger liquid you are using is a low sud detergent so you need to add more detergent if you want more suds or change to something like squeegie off.

As for how wet.
I alway work with the least amount i can get away with.
Obviously in hot weather you will need a bit more.
The less water you use the less you have to clear up and your cloths will stay drier for longer.


Paul

leee

  • Posts: 32
Re: how wet
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2007, 08:16:33 pm »
thanks guys i used to use fairy but did not get on with it the problem with squegee off is it is so much more expensive any one know a cheap supplier
LEEE C - WINDOW CLEANING

Dave hook

  • Posts: 94
Re: how wet
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2007, 09:28:18 pm »
I dip my applicator in the bucket give it shake, clean the front of the house and then have another dip n shake for the back of the house. If theres a conservatory i'd give it another dip! Cant see the point in using a dry pad, it leaves marks and id rather spend time detailing than getting called back to do the job again at the end of the day!
Money makes my world go round!

edd

  • Posts: 960
Re: how wet
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2007, 10:25:52 pm »
my tip is have an empty washing up bottle in your pockets with some low foam soap , now the difference is
low foam soap like unger which is tried and tested saves a lot of time detailing and not messing around mopping up
soap. if your applicator is to dry don't waste time going to the van simply a squirt and carry on from the bottle in
your pockets

 or use the wfp and leave as wet as you like EDD ;D ;D ;D ;D

ps
     we have a stockist for Evans cleaning products and we use a Neutral Hard Surface cleaner
[a] its not very foamy and sqeegees perfectly without sticking which i hate!!! >:(
it do sent seem to leave streaky mess  :D
[c] it smells nice custys always comment especially when we are inside  ;)
[d] its mega for wfp jobs  :o :o

Mr.G

  • Posts: 364
Re: how wet
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2007, 12:21:38 am »
On sunny days/first cleans, I have it dripping from the applicator, but only just, and on cloudy days/clean-ish windows, it's... er... not dripping.

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: how wet
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2007, 12:32:47 am »
In years gone by I've tried many different soaps specially formulated for w/cleaners. I've found all the ones I tried to be expensive for what they were and I couldn't get on with any of them. I always keep comming back to a good quality concentrated washing up liquid. Works a treat for me though you don't want too much or it becomes slimey.

I use more water in the summertime as it evaporates quickly and if it starts to evaporate before you blade off it leaves marks on the glass

Ian_Giles

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Re: how wet
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2007, 05:32:15 am »
To many suds in the water is a no no, regardless of whether you use washing up liquid or a specialist liquid.

To much water isn't good either, you just have more to mop up & detail.

If you have a huge pane of glass such as on some shop fronts, then yes, you want you applicator laden with water, but as a general rule, less is more.

hot, dry weather you adjust to accordingly, it really depends on your skill and experience levels.

Try to put just enough of whatever detergent you use to give you enough 'glide' to work with.

Specialist liquids are designed NOT to suds up! So never let the lack of suds bother you.
The more detergent you have in your water, the greater the film left on the glass when you've finished...bad news!!

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

xxmattyxx

Re: how wet
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2007, 08:41:26 am »
I have used Fairy for all my window cleaning life, nearly 9 years, but after reading on here I found out about GG3/GG4.

I tried the 4 but couldnt get on with it, my water here is 'hard'.

I now use GG3. Its less sudsy by far, just enough to see the stuff on the windows, with far less detailing and far far less wiping up after. I get through half the amount of cloths per day that I used to. I think the amount you have on your mop is generally dependant on your experience, as has been said less is more.

Shop fronts and patio doors the more with a little as can be got away with on other panes without smearing.

I worked out the cost difference between Fairy and GG3, using the amount of GG3 compared to Fairy is cheaper, which is nice of course, but not the reason I tried the change. I seemed to need to wack in about 200ml of Fairy for the water I use and now only use 30ml of GG3.

Matt


leee

  • Posts: 32
Re: how wet
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2007, 10:19:42 am »
so would you guys suggest that fairy is good as it is a lot cheaper and does just the same job
LEEE C - WINDOW CLEANING

Paul Coleman

Re: how wet
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2007, 10:32:11 am »
so would you guys suggest that fairy is good as it is a lot cheaper and does just the same job


I have tried a number of detergents and for squeegeeing windows my favourite is Fairy.  I'm just careful to use it sparingly to keep the suds down though.

leee

  • Posts: 32
Re: how wet
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2007, 11:20:13 am »
many thanks shiner
LEEE C - WINDOW CLEANING

edd

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Re: how wet
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2007, 06:22:17 pm »
I told you put the Fairy in the bin if you want to make more money !!! ;D ;D ;D