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Trademark WC

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WFP and soap
« on: July 12, 2007, 05:10:50 pm »

Hi all

What soap do you water fed pole guy's use? I have been using gg3 for past year or 2 and I would like to know what you lot use?

I heard some people talk about squgee off and sorbo? are these ok to use with wfp? or are they as bad as fairy.

Cheers

Rob

Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2007, 05:12:32 pm »
 ???

Only pure water.  ::)

Trademark WC

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2007, 05:19:24 pm »

I know that, I mean on ground floor windows, stair cases, first cleans that maybe wfp in future without having the grief of spot like you would if you used fairy.

Also for dipping and soaking the brushes.

Rob

Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2007, 05:24:12 pm »
It's the same as upstaires mate, plenty of scrubbing & rincing.

It's not the soap that only causes spots, its cleaning out the top of frames.

Ground floor windows are alot easier on first cleans.

Macc

Trademark WC

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2007, 05:40:05 pm »

Thanks for response Macc but I don't think you understand what I mean.

Its not for first cleans I said that in general, ie some people including me when windows are filthy dip the brush in a bucket of gg3 and then scrub them up. gg3 can  be used in alot of ways, people soak there brush heads overnight in pure water and they also use it to clean windows traditional and it doesn't have an adverse affect as using fairy would if you used it in the same way.

So what Im basically saying can you use the sorbo glide or squgee off in the same way as you would gg3??

make sense?

rob

Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2007, 05:59:10 pm »
Some on here do squegee off down stairs but i have not so i suppose the answer is yes.

I would not do that because the custy would always want that.

Sorry mate i misunderstood you.

Hope that helps.

Macc

Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2007, 06:10:49 pm »
You've probably been doing it longer than me trademark, and i am a little confused by what you say.

What i do is avoid soap, on a really dirty first clean i will use a applicator on a pole and water, the result is quite dirty, i scrub sills and any obvious dirt etc. Then I wfp.

WFP gets dirt off better than it does soap.

A downstairs wfp job is better than trad, IMO, and many customers agree. I realise you have a different opinion.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2007, 06:20:27 pm »
A downstairs wfp job is better than trad, IMO, and many customers agree.
Far more customers don't agree.
I don't either.
There's no comparison to a clean shiny dry window.

I use wfp because I want to make more money and have an easier job.

I squeegee some downstairs windows, especially the room the customer is sat in, as leaving it covered in water is embarassing.
It doesn't look finished.

nat

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2007, 06:27:19 pm »
A downstairs wfp job is better than trad, IMO, and many customers agree.
Far more customers don't agree.
I don't either.
There's no comparison to a clean shiny dry window.

I use wfp because I want to make more money and have an easier job.

I squeegee some downstairs windows, especially the room the customer is sat in, as leaving it covered in water is embarassing.
It doesn't look finished.
you just don't have faith in the WFP do you squeaky? far more customers DO agree it just needs to be in the right hands

i agree that when a blade is used by a competant person the results are good, but WFP in the right hands is just as good the system will leave the frames 10 times as good as a cloth. i use WFP on all outsides apart from one commercial where the pole just agitates a lot of dirt at the top of one window so it ain't worth it.

Is this heading in the direction of another WFP Vs Trad thread ::) ;D

Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2007, 06:42:41 pm »
As Nat said " confidence", it comes with time.

I got shot of my customers that moaned, now i have on the whole a great customer base. I can only think of one that i'm waiting for him to moan & hes gone.

I did it today but his mrs always trys to pay as she knows he pi55es me off big time, oh well, may be next month but she loves Wfp.

Macc

Sir Squeaky

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2007, 07:38:43 pm »
I'm perfectly competent with wfp.
I trust it most of the time.
I can do a fine job with it, but it still doesn't look as good as a dry window.

There's no getting away from that fact.

I lost my second-biggest job today because of the pole. >:(

Thought everybody said it would get me more work.
Bullocks. ::)

Chris Cottrell

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2007, 07:45:29 pm »

I lost my second-biggest job today because of the pole.


Thats not good .... care to say more squeaks

Chris

matt

Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2007, 07:47:27 pm »
Squeaky

dont you read the posts, you only get to earn a million with "certain brand systems"

oh and you havent had your van sing written yet, that'll pull in a few thousand K ;)

 ;D ;D ;D




Bobs Window Cleaning

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2007, 07:48:47 pm »
Chris

       Did you ring that Guy re windows?
Why oh Why did he spell my name as bod & not bob on my wedding invites.

Chris Cottrell

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2007, 07:50:45 pm »
Yes I did hes said he'd call me back last night but never did .. thought he might call today but no .. oh well

Chris

Pittmonkey

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2007, 07:51:05 pm »
I don’t understand Squeaky, you are in a great position. You are an experienced Trad cleaner with the added bonus of being able to use WFP. Rather than loose a big customer why not revert back to how your customer prefers it?

Wayne
'Success is buried in the garden of failure'

Bobs Window Cleaning

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2007, 07:55:14 pm »
Ok Chris

              Worth a try.

Bob
Why oh Why did he spell my name as bod & not bob on my wedding invites.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2007, 07:57:28 pm »
Thats not good .... care to say more squeaks
It's the home of an actress and her knighted husband.
No-one anyone would have heard of, mind.

They hadn't been done with the pole until last month, as they were having work done.
I warned the housekeeper it may only be 98% perfect first time, and I had to tell them I couldn't remove a sticky label that the builders had left on a dormer window. ::)

I got an answerphone message today saying I was no longer "required"
Maybe some of the old windows leaked, maybe I left runs I don't know.
Old georgian sashes aren't good wfp candidates.

It's job I that Ian used to do for 10 years or so, then when bought some work off him I carried on doing it as one of mine.

So basically they've had the same people for 20-odd years. :(

Sir Squeaky

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2007, 07:58:50 pm »
I don’t understand Squeaky, you are in a great position. You are an experienced Trad cleaner with the added bonus of being able to use WFP. Rather than loose a big customer why not revert back to how your customer prefers it?

Wayne

I don't have a ladder small enough to fit in the van, and that would mean going back to scrubbing georgians.

That's how I got my injury which encouraged me to get wfp.

Chris Cottrell

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Re: WFP and soap
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2007, 08:00:03 pm »
Bod

He said he had a weeks work in Mulbarton & half day in L Stratton at about £100 a day .. think I may have peed him off abit when I said I normaly do twice that a day, didnt mean it to sound bad but its fact so .. well

Anyway ??

Chris