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Luke Johnson

I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« on: July 07, 2007, 08:26:33 pm »
I dont even have all of my wfp system yet, just the poles and i have practised with the flocked vikans.............. I HATE THEM, they keep dirt in the bristles and then it comes off onto the glass, even after rinsing the stuff is still there. PLEASE SOMEBODY tell me about a monofilament brush ( NOT VIKAN ) that fits the vikan angle adapter, is lighter than a vikan with pencil jets.

Clear Vision

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Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2007, 08:31:50 pm »
What about the vikan monofiliament brush!  ;D

Luke Johnson

Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2007, 08:34:09 pm »
too heavy,, sorry

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2007, 08:34:21 pm »
The latest vikan brushes are monofilament with pencil jets. Don't know if they're any better than the flocked vikans as I've not tried the flocked ones on glass. The black rubber has been replaced with black plastic of some sort and they are not as heavy. The monofillament one seems fine to me but then I've not had a lot of experence yet.

Luke Johnson

Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2007, 08:38:10 pm »
I think there to heavy when I held them

NWH

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Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2007, 08:50:32 pm »
All the vikan brushes are heavy,go to B&Q they have a brush in there cleaning section that is only about £4.it has white and grey bristles and is as good as most brushes on the market at the moment it might not last as long but for that price who cares,it`s the same weight as the bentley only better slightly softer but not so soft that it pushes flat on the window.

Luke Johnson

Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2007, 08:53:04 pm »
does it have the same thread as a vikan?, is it monofilament?

NWH

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Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2007, 09:03:33 pm »
It just needs a good push on before it meets the thread,it`s slightly flagged but dosen`t leave lots of bits on the glass.Soon i will have the perfect brush with any luck within the next month or so.

Luke Johnson

Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2007, 09:04:39 pm »
are you developing one? with a manufacturer

Clear Vision

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Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2007, 09:14:03 pm »
I think there to heavy when I held them

You a man or a mouse?  ;D

You need a gaz h20 monofilliament brush then!

I have one and its as light as a feather.


macmac

Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2007, 11:23:03 pm »
if you've got a decent pole the weight of a vikan shouldn't be a problem. you need the rectangular one, but most of all you need to learn how to wfp first before deciding whats good & whats not. i use vikan flocked & mono & get perfect results every time. a few grams wont make you any better mate, smack your hand through the bristles to get rid of the bits. ;)

tony

pjulk

Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2007, 12:04:58 am »
Nothing wrong with a Vikan flocked brush its the user.
I use them all the time and get perfect result.

Paul

steve k

Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2007, 09:01:58 am »
same here...never had a problem with Vikan flocked, round edges with red rubber band.
I have tried loads of others and they just lie flat on the glass...useless with bird muck and dirty frames.

Davew

Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2007, 09:11:45 am »
Don't mind the raping - it's the pillaging that wears me out!

pylofm

Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2007, 09:19:47 am »
I have 3 Vikan (splayed) and 1 vikan mono...they are fine brush and very well made and take alot of abuse....I generally change brushes during the day...but I keep one as my 'dirty' brush for the real dirty work...

Vikan brush's are worth the money in my opinion...

Alex Gardiner

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Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2007, 11:08:13 am »
Whilst all brushes have their good and bad points an experienced WFP'er can usually clean windows to a very high standard with almost any of the brushes currently on the market. Most of it is down to personal opinion not actual results.

tom_currie

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Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2007, 11:28:33 am »
well said alex
do wish people learn how to do job and not blame tools give me practically any window cleaning tool and i will give clean window as i can clean windows

Dean Aspects

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Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2007, 11:32:11 am »
Only used a couple of types of brush but i really like the rectangular vikan as it is firm enough for the hard caked on dirt but soft enough not to do any damage and i dont think it is not that heavy
come on its only a brush of a few grams ;)

Alistair@AWC

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Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2007, 01:45:41 pm »
I currently use the Vikan flocked sill brushes for everything and find them OK but I do feel that if the brush didnt keep putting crap back onto the glass I wouldnt have to spend so long rinsing which would no doubt increase my hourly rate

As for these monofliment brushes I keep hearing about the ways they are better than the flocked brushes but is there any down sides to them?

And these Tucker brushes how much are they and is there anyway I can make them fit my universal poles?

Im probably gonna plump for the Vikan monofliment from Gardiners unless Alex suggests its worth hanging on for his new brush to come out!

Cheers Guys

Alistair

geefree

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Re: I HATE THE VIKANS!!!
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2007, 01:54:53 pm »
well said alex
do wish people learn how to do job and not blame tools give me practically any window cleaning tool and i will give clean window as i can clean windows

Thats all well and good, i spend ages trying to make each window is perfect, so if i see any bits a want to know why... even after flicking and cleaning the brush, so i asked which are the best brushes, a normal question... i dont think people deserve to be pillared for doing a bad job when its clearly something to do with the tool being used...... after all you would not expect anyone to think "oh there are bits on the window,... it must be the way i brush my brush up and down and across, i know , i will try it diagonally too to see if that cures it."

come on, its hardly rocket science is it, so how can bits on the window be blamed on the person not doing a good job,

and prior to the topic being posted do you not think that everything else has been tried before looking at the brush?

tools are tools ... and they are there to assist us in doing a perfect job....

and the saying  a good worker never blames his tools.... is not relevant in this case....

the best brush for wfp... was the question...

the best tool for plastering ?????? would that be met with the same responce?for instance....  give me any tool i could plaster with and i will do a good..

A kitchen knife perhaps.?

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