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Luke Johnson

1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« on: July 02, 2007, 09:05:41 pm »
I need to know how much water you use as a lone wfp user on your busiest day and what size tank you use.

Basically I want to know what size tank I will need in my van, so this information will be very beneficial.

Please also state how long you have been using wfp, so I can see if there is a difference in water usage between newcomers and more experienced users.

Thank you very much, Luke

ps. it doesnt matter what type of work you do, just how much water you use on your busiest day

Chris Cottrell

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2007, 09:11:44 pm »
to heck with a survey get the biggest you can afford or the most your vans payload will allow
You wont regret it , Plan for the future  I say

Chris

LWC

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2007, 09:13:51 pm »
i have a 400 litre tank, been wfp for 1 year, i was using around 300 + litres on good days, i have now bought a backpack, had my best day ever the other day and used 170 litres  ;)

backpack, way forward

Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2007, 09:48:11 pm »
Been cleaning windows for 4 years wfp, and have given up so many small jobs and have done even bigger jobs.I now have 400 ltrs used to have a 700 ltr but 400 does the same dont need anything bigger how much water did you used to use on an applicator? not much i can do 70 flats or 350 windows on 400 ltrs easy with varistream and microbore.

Luke Johnson

Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2007, 09:54:31 pm »
this is good people, keep posting

edd

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2007, 10:13:10 pm »
I would say 400 is enough for anyone but 650 will be nice in a traffic
with 2 staff like us you`ll make it easier for yourself and make more money!!

Paul Coleman

Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2007, 10:15:42 pm »
this is good people, keep posting

I did get through about 700 litres in a day once but that was exceptional.  It was wall to wall glass, a filthy first clean and I used a high flow rate.  Due to the size of the jobs there was little driving so it was pumping out for hours.  I could have got away with less but didn't have the experience then to know that.  I have used 550 - 600 litres a few times since then but more typically, it's very unusual for me to go above 500 litres in a day.
I have an 800 litre tank but don't fill it as the van would be overloaded.
I've noticed that I get through less water since I started using a smaller bore hose.
Although it's better to get as big a tank as possible, 650 litres for a single operator should be ample.  To make sure of this a smaller bore hose and/or something like a varistream (I don't use one myself)  to control the flow would help.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2007, 10:26:31 pm »
I've got a 400L tank in a Trafic and I fill it every day. (if I've done a full day).
I'd say I need 300+litres most days.

I reckon I use 50-70L per hour.

LWC

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2007, 10:33:00 pm »
squeaky you ever considered a backpack? you would save loads of water

Sir Squeaky

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2007, 10:38:31 pm »
squeaky you ever considered a backpack? you would save loads of water
Yes, and I don't want one.

Too much extra kit to worry about.
Too much time wasted filling it.
Got a bad back anyway.

Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2007, 10:39:37 pm »
I have 650ltr in my van. A couple of days per month i get through 300-350ltrs but my avarage day is 200ltrs.

I have triggers on my poles, use a varistream & microbore.

My next van will only have a 400ltr tank.

Macc

LWC

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2007, 10:39:53 pm »
ah no worries, only a thought buddy

i hardly noice filling it, its not all that heavy...but then i dont have a bad back

just trying to save you some water hehe

AuRavelling79

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2007, 10:45:42 pm »
I have a flat 400L tank in a Doblo - the most I use in a day is 400L (tho' once I went back for 200L more on a first clean set of offices and a small block of flats)

If starting from scratch I'd use an upright tank so that when the water is low it will still cover the outlet without parking to suit the camber of the road.

It's a game of three halves!

pjulk

Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2007, 12:14:35 am »
I have a 650 ltr system most days i use about half a tank but i have on quite a few occasions used nearly the full 650 ltrs but that was on builders cleans not regular cleans.

paul

Ian_Giles

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2007, 06:24:26 am »
650l tank for me too, most days I use over half of it, occasionally I'll use a whole tank, but not often, and when I do it will be a long working day.

What tank you get will be dictated by the payload of your vehicle, go for the largest tank your vehicle can safely carry.
Squeaks for instance had his tank for an escort van and transfered it to his Traffic, I'm sure that if he'd got his Traffic first he would have gone for a larger tank.

Far better to have spare capacity than not to do so.

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2007, 02:15:36 pm »
Quote
I would say 400 is enough for anyone but 650 will be nice in a traffic
with 2 staff like us you`ll make it easier for yourself and make more money!!

Thats where ive been going wrong as i have 2 x 400 ltr tanks but in different vans oh in different areas 1 tank cleans 70 flats @ £700 in one place the other does ..............70 flats in another place for £700 ive tried a bigger tank with 2 people and how much more can be done? 5 - 7 houses if your lucky but if you have 2 vans in different locations then you make even more money ...more money wages paid ....let it rain money in the bank

Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2007, 02:25:19 pm »
Hi i've a 650ltr tank use about half of that daily only one job i do takes the whole tank 650ltrs so i would say 300 to 400ltrs for one man is ample.

Ian Lancaster

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2007, 06:48:56 pm »
400 lt. tank

100 lt in 25 lt bottles (just in case  ;))

Usually get through nearly a tankful - only had to use the reserve a couple of times.

Cheers,

Ian

pylofm

Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2007, 07:15:10 pm »
650L tank in the van but only fill it to around 500l...I would say that daily I would average around 250 - 300....but the odd day where I can use 450+

But I like to keep the van filled to 500 as I have 2 internconnected 500l vats that I like to keep as full as possible....

 ;D

Clear Vision

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Re: 1 MAN VAN MOUNT SURVEY - PLEASE TAKE PART
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2007, 09:29:07 pm »
I have a 650L upright tank and would normally use between 200-300 litres a day.

Now I use the backpack all the time I use half of that!

What a waste of a tank! >:(