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jonah

Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2008, 08:06:51 pm »
Davo , my friend also a window cleaner fits upvc soffits and gutters !  Some of his customers asked him for quotes which he did , suffice to say they thought he was too expensive !   Later they got the job done by virgo who charge double what he was quoting !    ::)

Davo

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2008, 08:37:21 pm »
Davo , my friend also a window cleaner fits upvc soffits and gutters ! Some of his customers asked him for quotes which he did , suffice to say they thought he was too expensive ! Later they got the job done by virgo who charge double what he was quoting ! ::)


Very important question...why do you think that is?



Mark

jonah

Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2008, 08:41:01 pm »
Well his words not mine ......." just cos I clean the windows they think I should do it for nowt ( nothing )  My point on an earlier thread is if somone asks give them your mates number !   and visa versa  ;D

Davo

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2008, 08:46:31 pm »
Well his words not mine ......." just cos I clean the windows they think I should do it for nowt ( nothing ) My point on an earlier thread is if somone asks give them your mates number ! and visa versa ;D


EXACTLY, its the customers perception of a window cleaner as cheap labour.

And IMO thats what you need to change if you want to obtain good money for your time.


Now a conservatory cleaner who happens to also clean windows.....does that open up more possibilities???


Mark

Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2008, 09:05:23 pm »
Davo, without being rude, may i ask - exactly what do you do? Are you a window cleaner? Are you some kind of lecturer or still at school? Just a simple answer would suffice only you seem to be full of theory but with little substance if you know what i mean.

macmac

Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2008, 09:59:52 pm »
Mac mac, theres not much middle ground with you is there? I havent said Id charge £500.

The question is, do you think at the prices some companys charge that a window cleaner offering a very similar service would be "dreaming" if he were to charge between £100-£250 to clean a similar conservatory?

BTW I could sell em at £500 if thats what I wanted to do, but I dont think thats a volume price point.



Mark

Forgive me, i have been down :'(

To be fair davo, with the correct approach, i think you could get 100 to 250 quid for a proper con' clean quite often & is a realistic price. 500 quid i think is pushing it & as you state it's not realy a volume business. BUT, i think there is a difference between making a living soleley from con' cleans & as an add on to w/c'ing, this is where the customer perspective comes in. ;)

Tony

Davo

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2008, 10:00:21 pm »
Davo, without being rude, may i ask - exactly what do you do? Are you a window cleaner? Are you some kind of lecturer or still at school? Just a simple answer would suffice only you seem to be full of theory but with little substance if you know what i mean.

DJW My job is in direct sales, im a sales manager for a national company.

Is that straight forward enough?


Mark

If you mean substance as in cleaning windows, your quite correct. If you mean substance as in selling goods or services to people then your mistaken.

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2008, 10:05:02 pm »
Davo, without being rude, may i ask - exactly what do you do? Are you a window cleaner? Are you some kind of lecturer or still at school? Just a simple answer would suffice only you seem to be full of theory but with little substance if you know what i mean.

DJW My job is in direct sales, im a sales manager for a national company.

Is that straight forward enough?


Mark

If you mean substance as in cleaning windows, your quite correct. If you mean substance as in selling goods or services to people then your mistaken.
so you are not a window cleaner ??? ???

Davo

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2008, 10:16:20 pm »
Davo, without being rude, may i ask - exactly what do you do? Are you a window cleaner? Are you some kind of lecturer or still at school? Just a simple answer would suffice only you seem to be full of theory but with little substance if you know what i mean.

DJW My job is in direct sales, im a sales manager for a national company.

Is that straight forward enough?


Mark

If you mean substance as in cleaning windows, your quite correct. If you mean substance as in selling goods or services to people then your mistaken.
so you are not a window cleaner ??? ???


Do you want an answer to that??


Mark

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2008, 10:23:14 pm »
well yes, am i missing something ??? i thought you cleaned windows for a living ,this is a window cleaners forum after all and i assumed that most people on here were window cleaners or wanted to become window cleaners ???

Davo

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2008, 10:24:37 pm »
Mac mac, theres not much middle ground with you is there? I havent said Id charge £500.

The question is, do you think at the prices some companys charge that a window cleaner offering a very similar service would be "dreaming" if he were to charge between £100-£250 to clean a similar conservatory?

BTW I could sell em at £500 if thats what I wanted to do, but I dont think thats a volume price point.



Mark

Forgive me, i have been down :'(

To be fair davo, with the correct approach, i think you could get 100 to 250 quid for a proper con' clean quite often & is a realistic price. 500 quid i think is pushing it & as you state it's not realy a volume business. BUT, i think there is a difference between making a living soleley from con' cleans & as an add on to w/c'ing, this is where the customer perspective comes in. ;)

Tony

Thankyou for your opinion mac mac.


Mark

peter holley

Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2008, 10:25:48 pm »
are you a window cleaner   ....Davo???

sorry ...i will simplify the question ...

do you clean windows and get paid for it???? ::)

Davo

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2008, 10:31:45 pm »
are you a window cleaner   ....Davo???

sorry ...i will simplify the question ...

do you clean windows and get paid for it???? ::)

NO.

Thanks for simplyfying the question.

And I presume there are people reading and using this forum who dont currently clean windows and get paid for it.


Mark

macmac

Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2008, 10:34:49 pm »
Davo

I think you should make clear your possition as it may be in your favour to do so. You may get very different replies if people knew your exact intensions, i for one may have got your situation completely wrong but if i knew what it was & what you actualy want to acheive i might even be able to help you & give better answers to your questions ;)

Tony

peter holley

Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2008, 10:36:47 pm »
yes there are but, as they have no experience in the hands on part... they don't get taken seriously....and it's very easy to destinguish the real wc from the not so real.........

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2008, 10:41:52 pm »
so basically you sell double glazing and are onhere looking ffor info about window cleaning but you do not have a round ??? or do you still sub work out that you have canvassed ???

Davo

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2008, 10:57:24 pm »
yes there are but, as they have no experience in the hands on part... they don't get taken seriously....and it's very easy to destinguish the real wc from the not so real.........

I dont offer opinions on how to clean windows.


mark

jonah

Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2008, 10:58:05 pm »
Anyone that can sell double glazing is welcome to give me tips about increasing my business !

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2008, 11:04:02 pm »
are there no forums for double glazing salesmen then ???

Davo

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Re: conservatory cleans
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2008, 11:09:00 pm »
so basically you sell double glazing and are onhere looking ffor info about window cleaning but you do not have a round ??? or do you still sub work out that you have canvassed ???

I dont sell double glazing, and I earn no money from the work I canvassed.



Mark