[M & C Window Cleaning]

All you w/cleaners who WFP the tops & Trad the downs, don't you find that the water from the WFP work drips on your trad work?
I have a pal who worked for a while with a chap who WFP'd the tops while he trad'd the downs, but he said he had to work about three houses behind because of all the water dripping down.
I am looking to go this route later this year but I work on my own. Wondered if any of you work on your own using this MO and if you do, how do you deal with dripping water?

[petski2]

Very simple,when windows are cleaned turn off water,drag brush across cills to remove any excess water

[LWC]

or...work on your own and wfp the whole house

i used to have someone with me, me doing wfp ups and him trading down

i now do more and eanr more on my own 

[matt]

i work WFP up and trad down, it works well for me

i use a trolley and park the trolley under the middle of the front of the house, with my 10 M of hose i can clean the front of the house upstairs, i then move it around the rear and clean the rear ( trolley about middle of rear of house )

i then leave the pole against the rear of the house and walk to the front, by this time the water has stopped dripping and i clean it trad, then go around the rear and do down trad, then go and knock door for money / put in windows cleaned chit, then i go and gather my gear from the rear

job done, i dont have any issues with water still dripping

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I wfp most stuff.  You still need to eliminate the dripping if you do all wfp.  Most places have a porch so I leave the one above the porch till last.  I wipe the brush along the ledge otherwise you get a 1cm wide dirt line along the ledge, this also cuts down on the dripping.  Then do downstairs starting with the one under the porch.  Hey presto.

Nothing like dripping on toast.

[Andy@w.c.s]

We pole the whole house
 we even now pole some of our bungalows
we sell it to our customers as we can do all the frames much better with the pole that our old scrims
they love it 

[Dave Turley]

hi guys

i pole most houses up and down, except some patio windows. i find it quicker than getting out your wfp stuff for upstairs, putting it away, and then getting out your trad suff and putting it away.

also, if the upstairs sills are clean, any drips will be pretty pure and not cause any problems to lower windows. this doesn't apply to houses where the water runs down tiles, brickwork etc before it drips onto bottom windows     

[Biscute]

I tryed this mate but most of my houses are in a row so its fronts first then backs. That way just didnt work for me.

[LWC]

and, when i worked with the other guy we worked on his round, and he wouldnt allow the pole to be used on downs...non believer, great partner hey!

now someone has taken over his round, a good friend of mine, and hes wfp, the customers are now saying why have the windows never looked this clean before, after all, they never really notice the ups, they notice the downs, and now hes got wfp on it, they see how much better it is

[Dave Turley]

i agree, all rounds are different, and parts of the same round are usually different. i've been wfp'ing for a year and a half and trad for 2 years before that.

i think wfp is like another string to the window cleaners bow (a very good string that is!) and on my round i vary between the way i do my ups and downs with wfp, according to the house, and mix in a bit of trad when i think it will be faster or do a better job...

everone's different i guess, same as every round is   

[Sir Squeaky]

I don't wfp doors in porches or most patio doors.

People don't want all that water around, and it saves a bit over the day too.
Patio doors with the aluminium frames spot like buggery too.

Keep people sweet with a few proper trad jobs.

[NWH]

Yep those ali framed window`s are a nightmare,i trad them for sure.I gave a few window`s on one of my houses the pole treatment and they spotted like mad,i don`t pole ali framed window`s anymore.

[Dave Turley]

ha ha those ali framed patio doors are exactly the ones i do traditionally.

as for other ali framed widows, i find that if you keep on scrubbing with the flow in quite high, you can get rid of the oxidisation eventually (if you dont scrub down to ali first!) (a little gg3 helps too)

[NWH]

I don`t have hardly any houses with thoses types of window`s just the odd one so i trad them just to be on the safe side.

[Dave Turley]

at least you know you've done a good job. they're still not much fun to do traditionally.

i tend to turn them down now or price dead expensive.

[M & C Window Cleaning]

Hi guys, When you speak of ali frames causing problems, are you speaking of all ali frames or just the old grey type? Only I have a few that have an enamel type finnish. I' believe they call it 'powdered ali' because of the way the finish is applied. Are these a problem if they're in good nick?

[Dave Turley]

hiya! it's the ali powder coated ones. as they get old, the powder coating oxidises and it looks like you're wfp'ing with milk!

the grey ones are fine

[Sir Squeaky]

Other way around for me.

Milky ones? Just keep rinsing. They clear.
Grey ones? Keep rinsing and you're wasting your water.

[Helen]

WFP up and Trad downstairs does work.
You use far less water
As customers spend most of the day downstairs their happy with the instant dry result.
The cleaner downstairs starts with windows that have nothing directly above (conservs are a great starting point)
The guy on WFP does all the windows with others directly below first then does the remaining ones last.

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I find the silver ali frames are fine if you scrub loads first time apart from some patio doors on these I just trad.

The powder coated jobs you have to scrub until the stop milking and then rinse loads and they are fine.  I've had more hassle with these though the just the plain ali frames.  First cleans on these ones if the frames are really bad I've used 4 times the amount of water that I'd normally use.

Simon.