[bertbrown]

hi jon , it was a fishing tackle shop in hamilton , The anglers Emporium that i got my superlite from , same as the gardiner pole ...they call it the ultra lite and done it for the local boys initially , but is sending them out mail order now , good service , and i got some broken sections fixed within days , contact alan  on 01698 283903, tell him i sent you (might get a discount next time)..

cheers bert

[bertbrown]

  he is in the process of getting one done he reckons a couple of weeks , but he does do mail order and take your card details over the phone ,as my mate down in manchester got one last week

if you want to go see him you can he has a big fishing tackle shop, his address is in  cadzow street , hamilton. not sure of the street no , but you cant miss it its called The anglers emporium, his no is 01698 283903

[Chris Cottrell]

£399 

Hate to say it but mine was £250 , the gardiners supalite brush & gooseneck was another £50 or so
and I know others have got them cheaper still Jeff Brimble for 1 from Cheshire fishing

http://www.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/rods.htm

[williamx]

£399 

Hate to say it but mine was £250 , the gardiners supalite brush & gooseneck was another £50 or so
and I know others have got them cheaper still Jeff Brimble for 1 from Cheshire fishing

http://www.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/rods.htm

Chris which pole is it?

[Chris Cottrell]

Its the MAP F16 they knocked £100 off the price for not wanting the match top sections, I cut the top piece to suit the gooseneck then used a piece of the wasted section to insert/glue in the end to reinforce it my total useable lenght is 42' and I cn always add more paralell sections if & when needed

Chris

[bertbrown]

hi , what i found with the map poles is it can be sometimes hard to buy spare sections , if neededand i think they have discontiued that pole now? could be wrong but is worth watching out for

[Jeff Brimble]

Hi Bert are your talking about the F16 ? then its new out which is why I picked it for easily getting spares it replaced the Leeda Blue Diamond as far as I know spares are readily available and will be so for at least 2 years.
Someone mentioned that the Reload was discontinued, Cheshire fishing still have them available but I have been looking at others and will get back later with some other ideas if this is the case.

I am slowly coming to the conclusion that with care you can use most of the poles out there subject to them being strong enough and many are useable and interchangeable. Some are built wholly for lightness and these are the ones that do not suit our purposes give them a firm squeeze, if they give then leave them alone.

[Seers]

Hi,

If I buy the Map F16 from cheshire fishing at £249.99 what else would I need to adapt it to WFP and what would be a rough cost? And how easy is it to do.

I've joined the diy wfp forum but still waiting for my account to be activated so can't find anything out from there.

Cheers,

Huw.

[Jeff Brimble]

Here is part 3 for now. The links may not  work as this forum doesnt allow freedom of expression.
Part 3, To make your own you need to buy this. http://check link is by a known / regular poster AND NOT A PORN SITE LINK.fishtec-coarse.co.uk/ProductDetailInfoWithoutOptions.cfm?ID=FC-ZENSPOLE&ShopRef=40&Prime=Yes&shopListRec=30517
Cut the 3rd section down to fit a 12" piece of the Ubger alu on as previously described. The 3&4th sections of this pole will form the basis of strong top sections which will answer most concerns about fragile poles, as for our use they are virtually indestructable.The top 2 sections are of no use and are discarded. but keep the rest of the pole as they have other uses and as spares. This by itself will give you a 16ft floppy intro into light poles.

Now for an economical entry into light poles you could try a Ron Thompson Reload 11m carbon composite pole approx £50
http://check link is by a known / regular poster AND NOT A PORN SITE LINK.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/reload.htm
Cut the 3rd section so also it fits into the alu 12" piece and also fits into the Zensorflex no2
Combined with the Zensorflex this will give you an everyday 26ft pole for £50+18.99= £69
the carbon composite is however not quite as stiff as true carbon fibre which I prefer.

If you need to go higher or want better performance and stiff use, I suggest you buy one of these ....
MAP CFS F16 16m Pole Package, Powerpole
http://check link is by a known / regular poster AND NOT A PORN SITE LINK.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/mappoles.htm
Scroll down to this
MAP CFS F16 16m Pole Package, Powerpole

RRP £399.00 BLITZ PRICE £249.99

When cut down it will take you to 43ft with extensions £49/6ft capable of reaching higher than 75ft.
This pole is one of the latest but at this price supplies are limited to holding stock. Spares for all the sections are available. CFS stands for commercial fishery pole, they are stronger improved sections and do not stick together.


I suggest this because the parallel extension sections enable the pole to go to virtually any height, they are priced about £50 each. You will not need any of the free kits and may be able to get a reduced pole price. The free bag sounds good but in practice is not used at all.

Warning the prices quoted will rise within the next 3 months or as soon as the special offers finish, when they are gone they are gone. The suggested poles will also change as next years "new model" arrives on the scene. Note Leeda poles are no longer generally available.
You may also find good enough second hand ones on ebay or locally.
The Zensor pole tough first section approx 3ft is crucial to conversion of any pole, although "flag" poles may work, but I have not tried that.

   FEBRUARY 12th 2007 UPDATE   

13 months on and to avoid a long explanation I will keep this as simple as possible. The high reach carbon fibre are excellent for up to 75ft. But may eventually wear and are best kept for the high work. I now reccomend that everyone make and use a 26ft pole using the Zensorflex £20 pole and combine it with the Ron Thompson Reload pole £50. The reason is although there is a bit of flex if you use the No4 Zensorflex you will have an indestructible top section. (pic to come) in this temporary pic you do not need the unger elbow the No4 section simply push fits intothe base of the swivel loc adjustable base. Fast on off for hand use. 
The No3 Zensorflex section is used for fitting an unger elbow when you want it.(as described above) (pic)
You can then experience a modular pole that is cheap and tough enough to withstand rough service use.
I suggest you use 4mmID silicon/pvc pole hose then connect to a 6mm van/trolley hose.
For going higher than 25ftish you can then use the top sections of the above two poles to fit on or around section 5 of ANY 16m carbon fibre pole although you will not beat quality at the £249 price of the CFS 16m
.
So to end. My ideal pole is actually a combination of all three for toughness quality and price. Plus spares are readily available.

Here is a recent discussion http://check link is by a known / regular poster AND NOT A PORN SITE LINK.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=32940.0
http://check link is by a known / regular poster AND NOT A PORN SITE LINK.window-tools.com/cgi-bin/yabb/forum/admin/1169837499/0.html#0

My email adress is jeff.brimble@onetel.com
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THE ELECTRIC WINDOW CLEANER http://check link is by a known / regular poster AND NOT A PORN SITE LINK.electricwindowcleaner.com Featherlite lightest/cheapest 60ft pole on the market. http://d.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=412 The original diy backpack. Make money, save your life, build a wfp.

[G & M]

Jeff how strong are these poles, are they easily crushed if you stand on them?
Thanks Michael

[matt]

I've joined the diy wfp forum but still waiting for my account to be activated so can't find anything out from there.

Cheers,

Huw.

Huw, did you read this post here

http://d.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=505

[Jeff Brimble]

Michael, strong enough to work a light brush at 60ft. But...weak enough to crush under your feet/hands, as with most modern poles out there if you misuse or stand on them. They are very very light and thats their weakness but also their strength.
So if you want me to say they are ok to use similar to the heavy pole you use now I cannot. You have to learn a new way of cleaning with them.
Read the history warts and all if you have the time or print it out for reference.
http://d.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=194

[williamx]

jeff

So to make a pole that goes upto and higher than 45' you need the zensorflex pole and the map cfs f16 pole.

Does it need a unger angle joint? and can you easily fit a garderners superlite brush head on to it?

[Chris Cottrell]

William I have the f16 map pole and a gardiners gooseneck with the s/lite brush I had to cut about 12'/18' off to get to the correct taper but it fit v.snug

[Jeff Brimble]

WilliamX, You can fit the superlite goose neck on the No4 section Zensorflex(or any pice of angled TV aerial pole) I think.
OR you slide a 8" piece of NO1 Unger alu on the No3 section Zensor and fit any Unger joint/tool  on that.
OR do this and push fit the brush on the end of the No4 section Zensor. Ignore the unger elbow unless you want a complete universal swivel joint as in pic 

[williamx]

William I have the f16 map pole and a gardiners gooseneck with the s/lite brush I had to cut about 12'/18' off to get to the correct taper but it fit v.snug

Chris
So I only need the map f16 pole and not the zensorflex pole as well,  and still be able to reach 40' plus feet high.

[Chris Cottrell]

I'm no exert on these poles so dont take my word as the definative answer but i have the F16 and total lenght inc gooseneck/supalite brush is 42' 8" so from the waist its easily a 45' pole

plus whatever base sections I want to add later

Chris

[Jeff Brimble]

William x , Grovelling appologies got your name wrong in the wrong reply which you probably spotted, post above have corrected it now.
This post will automatically destruct when you have read it.

[Jeff Brimble]

So I wont know wat the eck we were talking about, maybe post again ?
Its me aneversary ------ back tomorrow 

[jouk45]

happy anniversary 
 jeff, have a nice one from me