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aztec

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PAYE for Staff
« on: April 10, 2007, 11:12:24 pm »
hello trevor

i have always found your advice and attitude to our occupation very professional and myself  having grown from a one man band to having 3 staff working on a self employed basis i would like your advice on where to go from here please....

i have a lot of work but find that i simply cannot afford to employ my subbies on a permanent basis ie ni contributions and tax just confuses me. i would like to go 'legit' but it just doesnt seem worth it and would like to know your opinion on which way i should venture next
we do earn a lot of money between us but if i took them on the cards i dont have enough cash flow to pay them weekly and holiday pay and sickness is out of the question. sorry if this is a bit rough but just wondered your advice on how to go about being more'legal' as it were

aztec

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Re: to mr knight
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2007, 11:27:08 pm »
please help trev!!!

Trevor Knight

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Re: to mr knight
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2007, 11:28:13 pm »
will email you tomorrow with more info on what options you can consider.

Regards,

Trev
Covering Hampshire, Dorset, Surrey, Berkshire

aztec

  • Posts: 793
Re: to mr knight
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2007, 11:33:12 pm »
again thanks trevor i really admire your attitude mate

marcus hopkins

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Re: to mr knight
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 11:40:31 pm »
Hi trevor
Same situation here. Any info would be appreciated.

Marcus

Trevor Knight

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Re: to mr knight
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2007, 07:23:30 am »
you have mail
Covering Hampshire, Dorset, Surrey, Berkshire

russ_clark

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Re: to mr knight
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2007, 07:46:32 am »
can I jump on the wagon too Trev!

dave0123

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Re: to mr knight
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2007, 10:32:28 am »
Mee too please Trevor!

dave0123@merseymail.com


Thanks Mate
Dave.

Central Window Cleaners

  • Posts: 845
Re: to mr knight
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2007, 12:34:59 pm »
Hi, I am in the same situation at the moment could you please sent me the email too please?

It would be much appreciated.

poleman

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Re: to mr knight
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2007, 02:29:06 pm »
Trevor me to, many thanks  ;) contact@smart-cleaning.co.uk 

Andy

poleman

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Re: PAYE for Staff
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2007, 03:29:46 pm »
Top bloke, thank you Trevor  ;)

Andy

Trevor Knight

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Re: PAYE for Staff
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2007, 03:56:51 pm »
Top bloke, thank you Trevor  ;)

Andy

Your welcome Andy.
Covering Hampshire, Dorset, Surrey, Berkshire

supernova77

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Re: PAYE for Staff
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2007, 05:46:06 pm »
Hi Trevor,

Would you mind emailing me the information as well?

andy@scs.uk.com

Many Thanks,
Andy

D woods

Re: PAYE for Staff
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2007, 06:45:56 pm »
Trying to pass employees of as sub contractors is very common and very
illegal. And will result in big fines as soon as the tax office catches you.

dave0123

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Re: PAYE for Staff
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2007, 08:57:20 pm »
Thanks for that trev.

Just a question to anyone that knows is it true whem employing you pay some tax for the worker eg if they pay £20.00 tax then you also pay around £24.00 tax so i heard?? is that right. Or have i got it wrong and its (NI)


Dave
Dave.

john j j

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Re: PAYE for Staff
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2007, 09:00:07 pm »
Hi Trevor,

would really appreciate it if you could email me this imformation also.

Many thanks,

John  

Art

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Re: PAYE for Staff
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2007, 09:15:29 pm »
Thanks for that trev.

Just a question to anyone that knows is it true whem employing you pay some tax for the worker eg if they pay £20.00 tax then you also pay around £24.00 tax so i heard?? is that right. Or have i got it wrong and its (NI)


Dave

No it's NI

dave0123

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Re: PAYE for Staff
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2007, 09:32:32 pm »
Quote
Just a question to anyone that knows is it true whem employing you pay some tax for the worker eg if they pay £20.00 tax then you also pay around £24.00 tax so i heard?? is that right. Or have i got it wrong and its (NI)


Dave


No it's NI

Thanks Art!

Which is 7% or 8% Isnt it?

Dave
Dave.

Ian Rochester

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Re: PAYE for Staff
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2007, 04:09:05 am »
I would suggest that if you are looking at employing staff, then you get professional advice, go to somewhere like Business Link or Entrust, they run free courses on employing staff.  They will take you through P45's, P46's, P35's, etc, etc also employee and employer entitlements.

The last thing you want to be doing wrong is upsetting the Inland revenue.

Also go down to PC World and pick up a copy of one of the Payroll and accountancy software packages they have.   They all provide a free advice line for the first year and you get updates every April so you are kept up to date with changes to allowances and calculations.  They cost about £100 - £150 and much easier than trying to do it with pen and paper.

We use Quickbooks and it literally takes a few minutes each week to do the payroll.

Remember when you employ staff, you need to take into account your Employer NI contributions (around 8%, but will vary depending on personal allowances), holiday pay allowance (again around 8%), sick pay allowance (3% ish)

So if you are going to pay someone £10.00 /hour, then it will actually cost you around £11.90 / hour throughout the year.

I say again seek professional advice!


Art

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Re: PAYE for Staff
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2007, 06:20:40 am »
Quote
Just a question to anyone that knows is it true whem employing you pay some tax for the worker eg if they pay £20.00 tax then you also pay around £24.00 tax so i heard?? is that right. Or have i got it wrong and its (NI)


Dave


No it's NI

Thanks Art!

Which is 7% or 8% Isnt it?

Dave

Hi Dave,

 Sorry, didn't see your question until now.

Phone up the tax office and ask them to send you out an employers pack, but remember and  tell them that you don't want to register as an employer at the moment.
There's a cd, all the relevant forms and booklets that'll give you an idea what's involved.

They also run free courses on payroll.


Also i'd agree with what Lionhearts stated in the post above.