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Jason Hedges

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Hose diameters
« on: April 07, 2007, 12:11:52 am »
Just wondering what difference it would make to vacuum suction if you mis-matched vacuum hose and wand tube diameters.

For example if you ran 1.5" hose from a porty and connected it to a 2" bore wand (with correct connection). Or visa versa, 2" hose to 1.5" wand?

I've got an eclipse with 3x3 stage vacs and think the 1.5" is restricting the airflow. Has anyone tried changing to 2" straight through or have any ideas about performance differences combining the two?

I know the scorpion uses 2" and after seeing it at the NEC has got me thinking!

Kind regards,
Jason.




Ian Gourlay

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Re: Hose diameters
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2007, 07:42:36 am »
When I considered buying an Eclipse Nick said I would need new tools

Liahona

Re: Hose diameters
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2007, 09:42:53 am »
Jason, it is better to use a 2 inch hose with a 2 inch bore wand.  However they arent too readily availible.  Using a 2 inch hose to an inch and a half bore wand is still better than just using an inch and a half hose.

 Also 2 to 2 is much harder to move around if you are doing a lot of wanding. 

For some floods I have used 2 and a half inch and rarely but 3 inch hoses too.  They have incredible recovery but are like bricks to move around. 

Best, Dave.

P.S. For what its worth I have always run 2 inch hose, from a portable or a truck mount married to an inch and a half bore wand via a whip line.  It isnt as high a spec as everything 2 inch but the difference isnt worth noting.  4 hour dry or 5 or 6?  No one cares, its still a clean carpet.

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Hose diameters
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2007, 09:57:28 am »
From memory, the Eclipse has 3 x 2 stage vacs, not 3 stage. They are mounted in series, not parallel, so although you have a high suction, the actual airflow will be about the same as a single 2 stage vac motor. Try a 2" hose set up and compare for yourself. Perhaps a bit Heath Robinson, but the best initial indicator of performance difference between the 1.5" and 2" hoses will be the sound through the tool. To make the comparison realistic, use the same length of hose for each.

For myself, I have 3x3stage vacs in parallel (high airflow), typically run 50' of 2" hose and a 1.75" 4 jet wand. The vac performance is superior to my 1.5"diameter wand tube.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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Jason Hedges

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Re: Hose diameters
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2007, 12:06:04 pm »
Hi all,

Thanks for the interesting replies, it makes more sence now. Nice to know how some of you more experienced guys set up your systems as well. Sorry Ken I meant 3x2 stage vacs :-[.

So I think I'm right in assuming that to run a length of 2" hose from the machine and use a short (whip) length of smaller diameter it will increase airflow over running 1.5 straight through.

Its all clear now, thanks for your help.

Kind regards,
Jason.



francis

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Re: Hose diameters
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2007, 06:48:40 pm »
Liahona

I know you can get 2.5" hose from the States - but where do you get the 3" from - never seen this before & are you having to reduce it down into your machine?

regards