[john meehan]

hi guys any views on using wfp to wash cars thinking of doing this in supermarkets-door to door etc etc replies please thanks john

[drakestar!]

i wouldnt bother because it uses to much water. would earn more window cleaning

[Sir Squeaky]

Removes the polish and dulls the shine too.

Don't bother.

[john tomkins]

I dont doubt you at all squeaky, it's just when you read this on suppliers websites it makes you think.............


Washing Cars
Now to the car. Car dealers in the USA have been using this method of cleaning cars for years. No chemicals means no damage to the paint work.


The reason you chamois or dry your car after washing is because the rinse water from the tap is not pure, it has dissolved solids in it, when the water dries the dissolved solids show up a sort of whitish marks. With this system the water dries sparkling clean.


The brush can either be hand held, or on your pole.

 


 

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

It's okay to wash as long as you then wash with wax as well and finally rinse off not wash off with wfp.  If you wash off last with the brush scrubbing the body work then squeaky is right the car will look dull as you would have removed all of the wax.  And you would make more money cleaning windows.

Simon

[Bazzy1999]

Correct me if im wrong but dont the car wash at the petrol garage use pure water, im sure ive been told this before..

Bazz...

[Roy Harding]

I have cleaned my van and cars for the last 3yrs and it does not dull paint work, it drys to a brittiant shine.


Roy

[Bazzy1999]

Just watch out for the old red cars they will dull..


Bazz...

[Roy Harding]

Just watch out for the old red cars they will dull..


Just as well I was considering buying a Ferrari last year but the wife would not get in it as it is to flash.

Roy

[neil100]

Pure water does not dull a red car. Its the ultra violet rays from the sun that dull the paintwork. If you use a high quality polish and look afteryour car then its not a problem.

Out of all the colours you can have a car in, A well looked after and polished Red car will put metallics in the shade.

If you hate polishing cars then dont get a red car.

I rinse all my cars and wash my van with pure water and they look stunning.
Nel.

[Sir Squeaky]

Sorry Nel, depends what you call "stunning".
Pure water will remove polish, so if you took my polished car and washed it with pure water you'd remove the polish and therefore take away the shine.

It's not a knock against wfp, it'll do windows fine.
It's just poor on polished paintwork.

If wfp can't remove a thin layer of polish from a car, what chance has it got with greasy windows?

Trust me, I'm the highest qualified and most experienced valeter you can get.
I know these things.

[Ian Rochester]

Squeaky,

I think you will find that probably every car wash machine in the country uses pure water in the final rinse.

I have a fully trained, top end of the market, car valeter who lives two doors away from me who has a 250 ltr RO system and tank in the back of his van for rinsing off cars.

I rinse my vans off with pure water after cleaning as normal with detergent and they dry up brilliantly including the glass, no need to chamois. 

I also use a hand sprayer full of pure water and a microfibre cloth to clean my dogs nose marks off the inside of the windows, again, brilliant results.......trust me!

[Londoner]

I saw a van last week that had on the side "Hot pure water car Valet" Inside it was all fitted out like one of our vans. Tanks RO unit etc.
The graphics on the outside of the van were very professional, it looked like it was a franchise.
I know Ionic do hot water systems, maybe it was one of theirs.

I don't imagine these guys are charging £5 a go with a setup like that to pay for.

[Tosh]

Squeaks, I clean the windows of this bloke who lives in a massive place; indoor swimming pool/stables/underfloor heating; a real posh place.

Anyway, he was interested to learn that I was using DI water for his windows since his car valeter uses exactly the same stuff on his car.

You can't be that much of a car valeting expert; or things have moved on since you were last hoovering out the fAg buts of some second hand Ford Escort.

[Ian_Giles]

Pure water by itself will not remove polish, otherwise every time it rained cars would be stripped of polish
Car polish is often silicone based, and that isn't water soluable, the same will go for the other car polishes.

I'm not even sure is simple detergent and a sponge will make any impact, not on the polish that been applied anyway.

On most modern cars, when the paintwork is nice and new, the purpose of polish is to give a protective shield, most cars have a laquer applied over top of the paint itself, all the polish in the world won't make it any 'shinier'. once it is clean, it is as shiny as it's ever going to get.

Windows may often have a 'greasy' appearance when they are really dirty, but that's appearance only, they are not, 'greasy' as such, what's on there is water soluable and washes off easily with WFP.

Ian

[Sir Squeaky]

You can't be that much of a car valeting expert; or things have moved on since you were last hoovering out the f*g buts of some second hand Ford Escort.

I am actually mate, more than you think. Hoovering f*g butts for christs sake. :
I've done cars for the Motor Show and been awarded by Autoglym.
It doesn't get any higher.

[Pj]

Oh well, I thought you'd gone all soft since considering WFP, Squeaky.

Good to see you three haven't changed! : : :

[Ian_Giles]

You can't be that much of a car valeting expert; or things have moved on since you were last hoovering out the f*g buts of some second hand Ford Escort.

I am actually mate, more than you think. Hoovering f*g butts for christs sake. :
I've done cars for the Motor Show and been awarded by Autoglym.
It doesn't get ant higher.

But that was several years ago Rog!
Times have moved on, the equipment being used and the methods have all changed now.
Nothing stands still for long...

But dull paintwork is usually the fault of that yellow disc up in the sky, not the effect of pure water (no different to rain water) on the paintwork...

Ian

[RO-Sheen]

the type of brush is also a factor on wether the paint will dull. Ionics told me not to use their brushes to clean my van cos the brush is too coarse and will remove the lacquer but Vikam brushes are okay as they are alot softer

[Sir Squeaky]

Ian, I wouldn't mind your help this week with working out how to fit all this kit if you could?

Any day, any time really.
I just need to get started, but I haven't the foggiest how it all goes together, let alone how to install it in the van.

I'll get you a nice bottle of plonk for it!