[Ian_Giles]

Although the following photo's look like it is one building, it is in fact two, one half an office block, the other a set of posh apartments.

The office is the half of the building that is on the right hand side of the first couple of photo's.

I'm not looking for advice, this just to see, out of curiousity, how long you think it takes to clean these accounts?

The highest window, where the road slopes away is 35ft to the window sill, and the windows on the 1st floor of the office half of the building are 7ft high.

On the photo (grainy cos it was taken at dusk I'm afraid ) of the rear of the building it doesn't show all of the windows, there are 9 more (3 per floor) on the other side of the building on the right hand side as you view the photo.

The office is an account I've been doing for 23 years, so lets see how accurate you are on how long it will take to be done trad and WFP.

As you look at the pic that shows front and side (pic 1) the office windows go 3 deep across the front, they are all of the side windows (pic 2) and on the photo that shows the rear of the building, they are the first 2 sets of 3 windows.

Off a ladder, even on the front, a wedge of some kind is needed to level up the ladder, and on the side the road slopes quite steeply towards the town car park.

So for the trad side of things, just allow for the office windows and not the apartment block.

I'llwait until a few replies have been made before I tell you how long it has always taken me to do....

Oh, the 4th photo shows justthe front of both office block and apartments.


Ian

Modified!

Darn on the photo that shows the rear of the building you can only see 3 of the windows that belong to the office block (on the left of the photo)

But you can see them on the second photo that shows the side of the building, and the 2 sets of 3 windows at the rear that belong to the office block.

[Pj]

If I was pricing for a regular clean I'd probably allow 3 hours to do the lot, but you probably do it in less than 2 hours.

Pj

[S.A.J]

Trad 4- 5 hours

Wfp 2-3 hours

Stuart
SAJ Window Cleaners Ltd

[Sir Squeaky]

WFP 2 hours.
Trad 15 minutes.

[E.K. W-C-S.]

ONE AND A HALF HOURS,2 OF US TRADE.

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I'd allow about 6hrs for trad, wouldn't have to hassle leveling ladders out as I'd use pointer ladders, would have to miss the highest windows though as my biggest ladders are only 30ft.
Water fed pole would be 3hrs max.

How much is the account it looks like fun.

Simon

[robbie14000]

Ian - That,s a nice account to have.
2 People wfp no more than 2 hours and I hope you get well paid for it.
Regards
 Robbie - Clearshine

[williamx]

2 1/2 hours with coffee break

[Chris Cottrell]

a little over 2 hrs for me i think

[D.Salkeld_Ltd]

No Idea

Out of my league

David

[stevef]

around 2 to 2 and a half hours going steady as I do 

[Terry_Burrows]

  if you cant do that in around 2 hours trad I am a snail,its all blade work,
easy if you said 40 mins a floor tops,ground floor you will make your time up the fastest bit of work last

[Paul Coleman]

If you can do it weekend or very early without traffic and pedestrian problems it can be done in two hours I reckon if you were shifting.  However, I price to work at a more reasonable pace that I can sustain so maybe 2hr 45 mins or even 3 hours.  This is for WFP.  Forget trad.  I wouldn't have touched it with a ladder  even before 2005 as it is triple floor work.

[Ian_Giles]

Mmmm....

Well to do the OFFICE part on the outside, remember, that doesn't mean the whole building, the apartment half is separate and I never did that trad.

Well, the outside for one man (one very quick man too I might add...and not Squeaky, on this one he was always quite slow) it was possible to do the outside in an hour and a half.
I wasn't far off that time on occasions, but that is also going back a good 15 years.

One guy who worked for me was incredibly fast, and he could do it in that time.

A reasonable time was 2 hours...at a push.

Now, done WFP the entire thing, including the apartment block is done in an hour and ten, maybe an hour and fiteen minutes.
Front and side takes 45 minutes, the back takes 20-25 minutes.

you'll have to read my original post carefully to understand what I mean about the the apartment block and the office being separate.

And yes....I do make very good money on these two accounts

Ian

Oh, the world champ has replied...

Terry, on the office part it was possible to do the top floor in 20 minutes, ditto for the 1st floor, the ground floor windows are awkward, 6 panes to a window and quite a stretch using a 8ft pointer on some of the work, and not at all easy to do the them in just one move of the ladder per window.

Strange as it may seem, it took as long to do the ground floor as the two floors above combined

I never did the apartment block trad remember, that is all new in the last 2 years.

Once you were up in front of the windows they were easy, though a bit hairy as you were right at the top of the ladder to reach them.
On the first floor windows you had to step onto the window sill to get at them, or at least the top pane as the windows are so tall, and the sill was so deep.

To get the entire job done trad (including the apartment block) in just 2 hours would be pushing it even for the world champ!

Over the years (23 of them) only one person who worked for me has ever done the account faster than I could (sorry Squeaks, it wasn't you )

Ian

[rp cleaning services]

trad 3 1/2 hrs
wfp 2 20 mins

[Terry_Burrows]

 ;DI am assuming in and out if so the upper floors I would have attack from in of may be poled the 1st or ladder  which is ok,when footed,must admit the ladder days are vituly gone for us to ,and hopefuly the wc in the not to far future

just noticed the top floor some windows could still pole it use backflip and side swipe flat head

[Pj]

If I was pricing for a regular clean I'd probably allow 3 hours to do the lot, but you probably do it in less than 2 hours.

Pj

Well, I thought you'd be doing it in less than 2 hours, seeing as you've been doing it so long, you could probably do it blindfold.  But I didn't think you'd do it as quick as you said.  Sounds like you have it priced according to average time.  That's the way to do it!

[NWH]

Why are your ladder days nearly up Terry,are you taking on mainly low commercial work or something.

[Tosh]

Terry's turned.  He's a carpet cleaner in real life. 

[Terry_Burrows]

 ;Din real life I bum around st corners wait for shows to appear mix with bad dudes,and not do nufin and I go into hideing,I will be back out in april in blackpoolshow