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misterrartois

  • Posts: 108
is the work saturated?
« on: March 03, 2007, 11:14:07 am »
I am in Essex and have tried unsuccessfully to sell some of my work round here.....i have tried Shop windows,this Forum,other forums...had interest,but mainly time wasters.
 Its not that i need the dosh (the Carpets are really starting to kick in now :) )i genuinely would like to look after my ex-customers,so my question is...is the world of Window cleaning now saturated/Has everybody got enough/too much Work?

 I guess its a good thing .

Regards to all..this really is a wonderful forum,without the search feature on here i wouldnt have had such success so far spotting all kinds of crazy,weird stuff on differant Carpets! ;D

russ_clark

  • Posts: 923
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2007, 12:47:08 pm »
Where is the work in Essex? Is it wfp or trad?
Have you tried to advertise it in the Evening Echo?
If the work was bang on my doorstep I may be interested at the right price

cottonbud10

  • Posts: 270
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2007, 09:19:57 pm »
i would be up for more work,still looking to give myself 4 days a week per month...i live in southend so drop me a line if the work you have is nearby..thanks..kev

Davew

Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2007, 01:20:58 pm »
Most of my work is saturated but it soon dries off when the sun comes out. ;D

rhino

  • Posts: 62
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2007, 09:30:14 am »
Is the window cleaning market saturated?
I attended a B.W.C.A course a couple of week ago and the instructor told everyone that there are 160,000 registered window cleaners in this country.
Now, if were generous and say there are 30 million domestic properties plus 10 million commercial properties it gives a total of 40 mill'.
40 mill' divide by 160,000 leaves a grand total of 250 customers per w/c!!!
I may have got the sums wrong. If not, it's not a very good ratio.

Davew

Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2007, 04:38:04 pm »
Mmm looks like there's not much room for any more window cleaners then?

Paul Coleman

Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2007, 08:00:27 pm »
Is the window cleaning market saturated?
I attended a B.W.C.A course a couple of week ago and the instructor told everyone that there are 160,000 registered window cleaners in this country.
Now, if were generous and say there are 30 million domestic properties plus 10 million commercial properties it gives a total of 40 mill'.
40 mill' divide by 160,000 leaves a grand total of 250 customers per w/c!!!
I may have got the sums wrong. If not, it's not a very good ratio.


250 decent customers would be about right for me I think.  I have 210 at the moment.  I could lose 30 or 40 of the lower paid jobs and substitute with about 80 higher paying jobs and I would consider that an OK workload.  Of course I'm not talking about all 3 bed semis.

Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 03:07:15 pm »
I would be happy with 250 customers all £10 + throw in a couple of commercial on top to bump my takings up

rhino

  • Posts: 62
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2007, 03:33:28 pm »
Commercials are included in the 250.
Plus, a proportion of the 250 won't want their windows cleaned so the figure could be a lot lower.
Having said all the above, i'm still going to give it a go........stooopid or wot!!

Dean Aspects

  • Posts: 1786
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2007, 04:06:29 pm »
oops ive just put a window cleaner out of business
i have near 500 jobs  :o

Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2007, 07:01:22 am »
I am aiming for 500 customers but currently have 244 so just under the 250 mark!!

rhino

  • Posts: 62
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2007, 10:44:19 am »
Hope it's not going to be me Aspects!! He,he
If you don't mind me asking, how long did it take you to get 500??

Dean Aspects

  • Posts: 1786
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2007, 11:11:38 am »
i have been cleaning windows for 12 years but have always got to a certain amount of work then sold of the worst or the work too far away

then about 2 years ago i was and still am considering emigrating to canada so i was at a immigration show and i asked one of the people there about window cleaning in canada and how it is regarded she told me about a glaswegian w/c that moved over 10 years ago and now turns over $3.1million per year :o

that got me thinking about all the work i have sold dropped and turned down over the years
i was inspired by this so have being building up my round from i think it was around the 200 jobs to now 465 in about a year i employ 1 person full time and very soon will be putting another van on the road and another employee

look at www.yourwindowcleaner.com

i never turn jobs down i just price well i have just taken on 10 jobs this week that was dumped by a previous w/c his price-£3.50 mine some £5 couple £6

geefree

  • Posts: 6180
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2007, 12:31:00 am »
not to mention the 2 million unregistered ones. ;)

* mike RH

  • Posts: 137
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2007, 01:06:07 pm »
The population of Britain is nearly 59 million so if there are 160, 000 window cleaners that means around one in 368 of people in Britain are window cleaners!

Of those, 368 some would be children, retired, women (no offence to you lady window cleaners out there) ......so that doesn't leave a lot does it?

I think 160,000 is a bit high.






Trevor Knight

  • Posts: 1825
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2007, 03:22:30 pm »
I attended a B.W.C.A course a couple of week ago and the instructor told everyone that there are 160,000 registered window cleaners in this country.

I really don't believe that.

Look at it this way, Add up the Clearchoice membership of 600, the FED, not sure how many members and APWC, again not sure, and that means less than 1-2% % are in an association of some kind????

I really don't think 160,000 is anywhere near acurate. My town has population of 34,000 and I only know of about 15 window cleaners, have been in this area for 15 years and we get to know each other very well. Thats a ratio of 1/2266?

Covering Hampshire, Dorset, Surrey, Berkshire

rhino

  • Posts: 62
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2007, 03:13:43 pm »
I understand what you're saying and i agree.
The 160,000 figure mentioned on the course does seem high.
I took a look at the BWCA website a while ago to double check and the figure is even HIGHER!! 180,000 from memory.
This gives an even worse ratio of w/c to customer. Not very encouraging for us newbies.

Trademark WC

  • Posts: 81
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2007, 06:22:48 pm »
im interested in the work I live in essex, where abouts is the work?

Rob

andypandy

Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2007, 09:21:55 pm »
is the work still available?

window pain

  • Posts: 88
Re: is the work saturated?
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2007, 09:44:43 pm »
i have been cleaning windows for 12 years but have always got to a certain amount of work then sold of the worst or the work too far away

then about 2 years ago i was and still am considering emigrating to canada so i was at a immigration show and i asked one of the people there about window cleaning in canada and how it is regarded she told me about a glaswegian w/c that moved over 10 years ago and now turns over $3.1million per year :o

that got me thinking about all the work i have sold dropped and turned down over the years
i was inspired by this so have being building up my round from i think it was around the 200 jobs to now 465 in about a year i employ 1 person full time and very soon will be putting another van on the road and another employee

look at www.yourwindowcleaner.com

i never turn jobs down i just price well i have just taken on 10 jobs this week that was dumped by a previous w/c his price-£3.50 mine some £5 couple £6

hi In canada how do they clean windows in the winter it's supposed to be very cold.