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Tosh

Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2007, 03:19:41 pm »
Have you tried putting a hot water bottle on the painfull area as i know it helps relax your muscles

Paul

Paul,

I believe the opposite it is what you do on injuries like this; put FROZEN ice-packs on it, such as a bag of frozen peas (don't eat 'em afterwards though).

Wor Lass (and runners in general) does this to their injuries.


pjulk

Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2007, 03:51:01 pm »
I have also heard about ice packs also but the doctor told me hot water bottle to relax the muscles maybe both ways work.

Paul

DaveWilkinson

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2007, 03:59:32 pm »
I was lead to believe the hot water bottle is to stop the pain, heat signals are stronger than pain signals, ice is to reduce swelling.

DAve

ronaldo

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2007, 04:04:11 pm »
Rog, go down the local outdoor get yourself 4 tins of super tennants and 2 tins of diamond white and you have my guarantee that you wont feel anything! works everytime for me.
A bad days fishing is better than a good days work !

Tosh

Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2007, 04:18:20 pm »
I was lead to believe the hot water bottle is to stop the pain, heat signals are stronger than pain signals, ice is to reduce swelling.

DAve


Dave, I could be wrong, but I don't think I am; for most muscle/tendon related injuries; ice packs are the done thing.  I live with an athelete; she's super-human (compared with my weak-flabby self); and she ices any injuries she gets.

Paula Radcliffe routinely takes baths filled with ice cubes after marathons; apparantly (obviously I'm not there to check).

DISCLAIMER
Also remember, I am a window cleaner, so any medical advice I dispense should be taken with a pinch of salt.

paul saunders

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2007, 04:33:50 pm »
Tosh, what is the salt for.  ;D
I can remember when waking up stiff in the morning was a good thing.

Tosh

Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2007, 04:51:00 pm »
Tosh, what is the salt for.  ;D

Throwing over your shoulder; obviously!

paul saunders

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2007, 04:56:54 pm »
Squeeky, you could try T.E.N.S, I use it for trapped nerves. Google it for info, if I had more time I'd explain all about it' but I'm off out for some nosh.  :)
I can remember when waking up stiff in the morning was a good thing.

DaveWilkinson

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2007, 05:50:16 pm »
Tosh your probibly right regarding the ice for injurys, but I dont see him getting much kip with a packet of frozen peas in the bed, i know the pain is eased by heat thus helping sleep, i know this from many bouts of really bad tooth ache, wont help the injury much but a good nights kip is very important.

DAve

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2007, 07:31:55 pm »
I've been to the Osteopath now, and all is now clear.

What's happened is that I have a tendency to pull the muscles in my neck, it's a medical condition lots of blokes get apparently.
This I knew because I'm always putting my neck out of place.

The reason for the shoulder pain is thus:

My neck went on wednesday.
On thursday, after 3 days off with no car I worked flat out with a bad neck.
This inflammed the muscles and trapped a nerve, which has endings in the shoulder.

After manipulation in all directions he's satisfied the nerve is not trapped now, and my joints are fine.

The pain is due to the nerve being damaged.

All I can do is take it steady and wait for it to ease.
But don't throw myself back into work too hard.

There you go, just needed to see a professional! :)

Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2007, 07:51:07 pm »
Stretching sorts everything out

Tosh

Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2007, 08:59:52 pm »
But don't throw myself back into work too hard.

Back to normal then! ;D


JohnL

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2007, 09:19:29 pm »
Its good to hear what the problem could be Rog, it clears the air somewhat  .  .  .  best of luck mate!

  .  .  . and dont forget you are surrounded by experts - we all know how to cure you!!


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dai

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2007, 09:32:42 pm »
http://orthopedics.about.com/od/rotatorcuff/g/rotatorcuff.htm.

Squeaks, check this link out.
Rotator cuff injuries can be serious. Don't forget to try and keep your hand below your head.
This is one injury that shouldn't happen to WFP users, you may be forced to change if it doesn't get better. Dai

Paul Coleman

Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2007, 09:34:18 pm »
I've been to the Osteopath now, and all is now clear.

What's happened is that I have a tendency to pull the muscles in my neck, it's a medical condition lots of blokes get apparently.
This I knew because I'm always putting my neck out of place.

The reason for the shoulder pain is thus:

My neck went on wednesday.
On thursday, after 3 days off with no car I worked flat out with a bad neck.
This inflammed the muscles and trapped a nerve, which has endings in the shoulder.

After manipulation in all directions he's satisfied the nerve is not trapped now, and my joints are fine.

The pain is due to the nerve being damaged.

All I can do is take it steady and wait for it to ease.
But don't throw myself back into work too hard.

There you go, just needed to see a professional! :)

I'm glad to hear that things are on the mend Squeaky.
Stuff like that that can be really painful.
Been there myself.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2007, 11:35:27 pm »
http://orthopedics.about.com/od/rotatorcuff/g/rotatorcuff.htm.

Squeaks, check this link out.
Rotator cuff injuries can be serious. Don't forget to try and keep your hand below your head.
This is one injury that shouldn't happen to WFP users, you may be forced to change if it doesn't get better. Dai
I thought wfp would be better for me, but it's not the case.
I asked the experts about changing to pole use, and they've all said it's a lot worse for my neck due to constantly looking up.

It's an un-natural postion apparently, and I'll cause myself more neck trouble.
A warning for you all maybe...? :-\

Pat Purcell

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2007, 12:50:06 am »
Roger ,
I went for a physical a little while ago and my Doc said the same thing ,Arthritis was almost inevitable in my neck from looking up all day, We do a lot of trad pole work,
This is a physical job we do and wear and tear on the body is part of the price we pay for it,
If you try to vary your work as much as possible it might help you to continue working
Boston USA    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Cork Ireland

lee_dewing

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2007, 10:59:32 am »
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Suit yourself slowcoach
If an average w/c on ladders which i use to be is earning £100-£150 a day so you are earning £200 - £300 a day :o
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2007, 11:16:28 am »
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Suit yourself slowcoach
If an average w/c on ladders which i use to be is earning £100-£150 a day so you are earning £200 - £300 a day :o

You obviously work more hours than me.

I do 5-6 hours usually.

Re: Can't win sometimes.
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2007, 06:00:17 pm »
Yoga+WFP=Solution.
(imo)