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MNWC

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Jeff Brimble
« on: February 13, 2007, 04:40:59 pm »
Hi Jeff (And all you other nosey parkers)

Is this the sort of thing you make your lightweight poles from-http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-0-Met-PUT-OVER-POLE-carp-match-fishing_W0QQitemZ300080933550QQihZ020QQcategoryZ1495QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300080933550

Am gonna have a go at making one myself needs to be about 35 foot What make would you recommend ?

Marcus

Count Phil

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2007, 04:50:16 pm »
I've literally just made one from a shimano nexus 11.5 metre pole. Brilliant. It's 27 feet after mods. You will probably need a 14 metre to make a 35 ft because you lose the end bits. But you can keep adding sections as an when whatever pole size you get.

MNWC

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2007, 05:14:33 pm »
Was it easy enough to do ?

Any pics ??

Marcus

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2007, 05:23:20 pm »
Yep, easy. The particular model (the're all a bit different) meant i used the 3rd section for the top piece. I took the thread out of a standard pole (the type the plastic gooseneck screws onto and cut the 3rd section down untill the thraed slid in( a firm but not tight fit). Then I cut that section containing the thread off. About 2 inches. I glued the thread into the 2 inch long carbon section. Then taking the now silghtly shorter 3rd section, I cut it down slightly untill my 2 inch sleeve containing the thread slotted in. I glued this in place. So the no3 section was now about a foot shorter but had a standard thread on the end that my plastic gooseneck was on which could take all the usual brushes. It was dooble thickness around the end of the section for strenght. Took 20 mins to do, 24hrs to dry. Easy, and I'm rubbish at diy. I will p[ost a pic later.

MNWC

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2007, 05:55:16 pm »
Ok cheers fella

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2007, 06:29:02 pm »
There are two types of these poles, push in and put over. The first pole I had was called a "margin" put over poles, they are usually a max size of 8 metres(Browning) and are designed to take a fish "hit" of 18lbs which means they have some give in them.The majority of the bigger poles are push/put in. This means you put the next section inside the base of smaller pole. A put over pole is larger than the thinner section and you push the bigger section over tha smaller base by putting it over the outside of the smaller pole. Its difficult to explain unless you actually see the both types, then the penny drops.
Put overs are not usually very long, you would not use the three sections on the left of the picture as they are too thin.
The bottom (larger) sections of a put over pole are usually strong so if you later want to go higher you can cross match a put in pole into the base section of a put over.
Yes it will work if someone gives you a second hand one for say £20-40 and it will be a short but strong pole. But the top sections you use as with all poles are the weak point thats why I make the reccomendations in the diy topic that I do, it will save you time and money.  :)
Its to do with the type of fishing, they are designed for fishing in the "margins" i.e. near the banks so that you can yank the fish out. The longer poles 16m are designed for going out further possibly to the other bank and shipping the pole in horizontally by removing the sections as you go. The line is only about 1-1.5m and attatched to the end section of the pole.
Blimey gone on for a bit and I am not even a fisherman. :)

Ladders

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2007, 06:29:44 pm »
Hi Marcus.

It dosent say if its carbon or fibreglass, if its the latter it will be to flexy. as P bowen says you will loose the top three mtr,so you would end up with a 5 mtr pole.

Jeff
For every problem there is a solution

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2007, 06:37:54 pm »
To get to 35ft using your pole you would need  extra 4x 6ft  Browning parallel extensions @£35 they are thinner than the usual extension but should work if they marry up with the pole you buy near the base section.
I think you may already have a fishing pole ? can you not just use/join  the CFS 16m pole in this topic.  http://d.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=412

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2007, 06:52:43 pm »
In that reply at the end of reply 3 I suggest you  buy all three poles to get to 42ft, you cold get a smaller CFS pole which would take you to 35ft butb you get the extra height thrown in for the same price.
Try the Zensorflex and the Reload first which will take you to 26ftish for say£70 its what I am reccomending and you will get some useful sections with the Zensorflex (one that will withstand electrical charges to 1000 volts. You could just buy this bendy £20 poles to start and get an idea of the lightness and modular construction.
Then if you can get on and like the lighness you can just add the CFS 16m pole at £250 which in effect then gives you 2 workeable poles.
You could just buy the CFS pole only for£250 but as its reletavely expensive it may get dammaged, by using the 2 cheaper poles you will get your induction without gambling too much money.
If I was starting again to go to 35ft I would still go the three pole route one step at a time. Because its the strongest way.   
Blimey thats enough brain power for now, hope it helps.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2007, 07:09:15 pm »
Oh and if you relly want a goose neck, a cut down £8.50 B&Q aerial will push fit on the No 4 section of the Zensorflex

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2007, 07:24:33 pm »
do you have a link to these three poles ??

shawn
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MNWC

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2007, 07:25:56 pm »
Ok thanks for your input jeff  ;)

Marcus

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Re: Jeff Brimble
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2007, 07:44:40 pm »
shawn, all three poles are from cheshire fishing,the cheapest place around for poles.
Malcolm

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Jeff Brimble New
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2007, 09:29:02 pm »
Not quite they dont stock the cheap £20 Zensorflex, just search google or many tackle shops sell them. Heres the link for cheshire fishing Search for Ron Thompson "Reload" 11m   and CFS 16m £249.
http://www.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/reload.htm
http://www.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/mappoles.htm

The reason for suggesting all three is that although you only need the CFS for heights you will like the lightness and will use it at lower heights as well. The Reload will adequately do the lower heights so save your expensive pole for the high work and the Zensor is the main rough and tough top section ( it could just as well be another manuf. but thats what I use.  :)
Here is a compettitors link for the similar cfs there is a  price difference
http://www.wickfordangling.co.uk/coarse/map_matchtek_msixteen.htm

Why can't there price be beaten ? Simple cause they buy and sell "thousands" and do not supply trade. The3y also appreciate return fishermen customers so pass on the savings instead of making more profit. It wont get you anymore discount but tell them Jeff sent you and what the pole is for. It will help make up for my visits and driving them up the glass wall  :)