[matt jones]

Hi all, just come back from qouting on my first upholstery job & first woven carpet and got the job nightmare but i suppose i have to face these fears sooner or later lol. Suit is a cotton & polyester mix from marks & spencers and the carpet is a wool axminster im sure. Its very colourful with a kinda flowery design all over it. Any advice on this job would be much appreciated i'm more worried about the carpet as i want to keep moisture to a minimum but around the fire place is very thick sut which i'm sure will be lovely to get out, also bad draft marks underneath the radiators 
matt

[david_m]

hi mat ultra pac renavate from prochem is good for the soot around the fire place ,and for the draft marks.

for keeping the moisture to a minamin a good pre vac
pre spray agatate if detergaent based your useing let it dwell for at leaste 10 min befor exstraction and you will find that you dont have to use as much water

 davy

[david_m]

hi mat

for got to say when you are doing the draft marks
you could use a hand tool

plus use a upholstery brush or simerlier
to brush in the ultrapac renavate, you will find exstraction mush easier
if this is done first

hands and kness job

  davy

[matt jones]

Thanks for the reply mate i don't have any ultrapac but multi pro would do the trick wouldn't it? I also use microsplitters but not sure if these would work better then detergants?
Thanks again for your advice
matt

[david_m]

hi mat

I also  prefair to use m/s for cleaning  solutions uk ms

multi pro is ok if you have nothing else
but in my opion, isnt as good as ultra pac for the above task

  davy

[Chris R]

You will need to use an acidic rinse ( fibre and fabric rinse) if you are using ultrapac or multi pro on wool.

Try MS first, use the hand tool for better flushing of the draught marks and soot.


regards
Chris

[matt jones]

Hi Chris yes i relise that mate.
I might give m/s a try first use it as a little experiment lol if they don't work then i will try a detergant based product thanks for the reply lads.
ps i was always told to use warm or cold water on axminster type carpets is this really important because i would rather use hot water from the tap if poss?
regards
matt

[Jason Hedges]

Hi Matt,

For the suite I'd use m/s for sure. I've been getting excellent results on cotton suites by spraying a small amount of m/s and using a microfibre cloth to remove dirt (I use white microfibre cloths so you can really see the dirt coming off).

Have a bucket of warm clean water to hand to rinse out cloth after a few rubs. Also spray cloth with m/s after each rinse.

Most of the time doesn't even need flushing with upholstery tool, better to give a few dry passes though to remove as much moisture as possible! I towel dry as well to leave as dry as possible. Then get the air mover on the case to really speed up the drying.

As for the axminster, thoroughly vacuum first and keep moisture to a minimum, most of the time granules or powder used with an agitation machine and vacuumed up after will work for a general clean. If carpet is more soiled I'd lightly mist with m/s, agitate and give a single wet pass followed up with several dry passes.

For soot I'd thoroughly vacuum in all directions (firstly as standard then use crevice/hand attachment on hand and knees) to remove all dry deposits. Ultra pac is good but as Chris R pointed out let dwell and extract with fibre and fabric rinse to neutralise, use a hand or stair tool for extra flushing!

Draught marks are the same, vacuum heavily then use ultra pac, let dwell and rinse with fibre and fabric rinse after agitation with hand brush.

Just remember not to over wet and dry off as quickly as possible!

Hope this helps.

All the best,
Jason.

[matt jones]

Jason, thanks for that reply mate it's much appreciated just one thing though, you didn't answer question about temperatures being a problem or not on this type of carpet as i said before it will only be tap hot if i use a hot rinse.
Thanks again
matt

[dave401uk]

No more than 40 degrees, but remember that,to get 40 at the carpet,you will most likely need about 60 in the tank, and as most have said,plenty of dry passes,this type of carpet is easy to clean,its just a case of gaining confidence,which will come with time!

Dave

[woodman]

Matt;

Have you checked that the carpet is an Axminster and not a BW if not do this  before you go any further.

Wouldn't want something to go disastrously wrong on your first call.

[matt jones]

I'm 99% sure this is not a lovely b/w if it was or thought it was i would of ran a mile lol. I done a burn test on it and it smelt like burning hair so it must be wool. What boosted my confidence a little was the guy said he had cleaned it a while ago with a DIY jobbie and nothing went wrong with it maybe if it was a b/w he had done that to he probably would of had a new rug lol.
Thanks for your help and advice everyone,
must say this is a bloody helpful site 
regards
matt

[the red carpet]

If ever in doubt if its a belgium wilton, or a wool wilton, pluck a fibre/tuft from the edge of the room and stick it in a cup of water if its a polyprop "belgium" wilton it will float, if its the real deal it will sink.

As for heat, i dont understand the reasoning behind the low temp myself i always hit them as high as i can, i would actually turn the temp up for a wilton or axminster.

Hot water will evaporate or dissapate faster than cold, so in affect the hotter the water the faster the drying, and these carpets dont really like the moisture so the faster they dry the better.

[matt jones]

Yeah red i agree with you there about temp but i think it has something to do with hot water will penetrate down to the backing quicker then cold water? Its just i rem reading something about stains if it was a hot drink that was spilt then the stain could be harder to remove as it has penetrated futher into the carpet. What sort of psi do you guys keep to when doing these type of carpets?
regards
matt

[BRSL]

Dan and Matt

I could be wrong but I have always been under the impression that the use of high PH cleaners and heat will damage wool carpet because it can degrade the eperdermis and cause the epidermis scales of the fibre to fan out witch can result in interlocking or (felting) the same as heavy aggitation

James

[matt jones]

yeah but the ph will be neutralised with the fabric rinse so that aint an issue, as for heat i will only be going tap hot not using an inline heater or anything like that.
Regards
matt

[Geoff Jewkes]

Correct me if i'm wrong but once the high ph cleaner has made contact with the carpet its already doing damage. Acid rinsing will stop it but won't reverse damage thats already occured

[Liahona]

Fibrefresh, you are quite correct. Some, I dont know if all, chemicals are designed to work with in 1 100th of a second. This being correct the high ph would indeed do damage to the textile non returnable to its pre presprayed condition. Best, Dave.

[BRSL]

Matt sorry my coment was just an coment on why not to use V hot water, hot tap water is set to 60 so should be fine, but the use of High PH cleaners and heat is sometimes unavoidable but you could look at other cleaners such as Hydramaster Fast Break which is also good on filtration marks and a PH of 9 instead of 10.5

James

Ps what part of Devon are you from im in the North if your close im always happy to help if I can

Pps Geoff you get lucky on that job 

[matt jones]

Im from the southwest not far from crediton. There is actually quite a few people from devon on this forum that i never knew lol small world. I tend to use m/s now anyway i think they produce better results imo plus with all this going green milarky and being more safer for the operator to use why not. You busy in your part of the woods then james? Things are abit drips and drabs for me but avent been in this business for 5 mins so i suppose thats to be expected.
Thanks for the offer mate if i get really stuck might have to take you up on it 
matt