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jasonl

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How about this....
« on: November 15, 2006, 11:21:44 am »
A broker company sells domestic cc jobs for you, to your pricing levels,in your area all you have to do is call the customer and book the job in to your diary.

Who would want the work , pm  me if  shy ,or dont want heckling by the 1000 quid a day boys.

Also please let me know what you would work for, eg,

lounge £?
lounge diner£?
hsl£?
per step£?

per seat of upholstery£?

Minimum job value?

The prices I am asking for , are the ones that YOU would be willing to work for, the cleaning broker would of course , add his fee, which you would forward on once the job is completed and paid for. This would be weekly.
If you for example did a lounge/diner for £55, the broker would want £6   for passing the job, if you, whilst cleaning that £55 job got the suite/ hsl or any other work , the carpet broker would not want any furthur fee! that is your customer and it is up to YOU  to cultivate him/her.

THIS is a serious question , and I am asking for serious answers please.

The requirements for recieving jobs would be as simple as possible ie;

1,   To maintain all treatment risks and pl insurance.

2, To stand by your work, eg , revisit if there is an issue relating to your work.

3, To have a positive, flexible ,can do attitude to building your business.

The aim is to get you customers, which you then keep.

Any thoughts.... good , bad , ugly idea?
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carpetclean

  • Posts: 802
Re: How about this....
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2006, 11:58:37 am »
jason i have just emailed you.
but just to add if you are offering a broker service and guarantee work at the cc's prices i should imagine you will be inundated with offers
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gmccleaning

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2006, 12:38:10 pm »
what areas are u talking about,is it  yourself or is it another company thats going to be the broker

  george

jasonl

  • Posts: 3183
Re: How about this....
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2006, 01:05:44 pm »
George,
I am talking nationally.
 I have a contact who does the same thing in another service industry.
  Very positive feedback via email already, sorry to the couple who are in the £300/day plus league, its probably not for you.
I thought of this because I turning away a lot of this end of the market, yet see there is still a good living to be made from this market.
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matt jones

  • Posts: 411
Re: How about this....
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2006, 02:37:58 pm »
I don't understand mate how you would be able to do this nationally because if its people contacting you from your area and you are turning away the work how are people from other areas gonna benefit from this? It's a very good idea but i don't see how it would work ie how exactly and why exactly would someone from my area contact you instead of me?
matt

jasonl

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2006, 02:45:54 pm »
Because  I have teamed up with a web optimization company, who can get leads any where. So they will come in nationally. It HAS NO SET UP COST TO CC'ERS.
We all get calls daily from people offering this or that ad deal, amazing new mg, doctors surgery, supermarket cards, web directory etc. This way is a no money up front method, to the cc company, we would book the job, take our commission by debit/credit card and pass the details to  the local operator, it works successfully in all kinds of trades, plumbing, drains, skip hire, removals, couriers, loads of them, there is not one for cc yet.
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matt jones

  • Posts: 411
Re: How about this....
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2006, 02:57:56 pm »
surely this is a brilliant idea. It would dramatically cut the amount of leaflets etc us guys need to do. I still don't understand though how the customer finds you?

matt jones

  • Posts: 411
Re: How about this....
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2006, 03:01:50 pm »
Jason surely though mate it would enable someone to build up a large customer based business in no time then everybody will want abit of the pie and the market will be even more flooded?

Re: How about this....
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2006, 03:12:05 pm »

I'd put your percentage up Jason. If your offer is genuine and there are no catches you will get lots of takers.

Either you have super sales people or lots of doorknockers who are paid peanuts, I can't see a margin in it.

No money up front, promise?

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2006, 03:13:39 pm »
i think this is a fantastic idea  think about it if u put out 1000 leaflets and get 3 jobs each job has cost u say a tenner but if u could giv someone 3 leaflets and they knew  the 3 letter boxs to put them though to get u the 3 jobs u gladly giv him the 30 pounds,and dont forget the times u put out 1000 leaflets and get nothing but still cost u   this way it costs u but u get a result for every penny spent

jasonl

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2006, 03:31:40 pm »
Matt , there will be safeguards in place ,,,, clearly , those willing to be most flexible about where they work , the ones with least complaints, the ones with best feedback , would recieve the most work.
The guy I am working with sells 50-100 jobs nationwide per day (different yet demographically similar market), with 2 staff, at £5 to £15 per job, all commision is paid to a merchant account at the time of booking, so its good cash flow, the commission is paid as a deposit so there are few cancellations.
To make it legal , all operators who wish to recieve work need to contact me with the prices they are willing to work for , other wise price fixing regulation laws are broken. That is why I can not list prices.
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matt jones

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2006, 03:38:21 pm »
ok, so how local are we talking 5, 10 15 or more miles? and i know you wouldn't be able to garantee a certain amount of work per week but how many jobs do you think you can offer people? it seems a bloody excellant idea mate i must say i can't see what there is to lose. Basically you will be gaining from us gaining.

jasonl

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2006, 04:28:33 pm »
It is just another potential source for work, and these optimization companies take a while to do thier thing, I HAVE NEVER STATED THAT THERE WAS ANY GUARANTEE OF WORK, this service is carried out in many service industries,and is not a new idea at all, it is just new to cc.
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Paul_Ashworth

  • Posts: 411
Re: How about this....
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2006, 04:57:40 pm »
This is a good idea, however how do we know it is Genuine and not just trying to build the franchise side of the business up ???

fletch

  • Posts: 96
Re: How about this....
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2006, 05:06:40 pm »
The NCCA allready operate this system, They also monitor and regulate a set professional standard for the carpet cleaning market through training, and all associates have  to be fully insured before joining.
In the two months I've been carpet cleaning in my area I've received 4  referrels from the NCCA and they have been paying customers.
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Terry_Burrows

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2006, 05:10:18 pm »
it does sound all to easy ???
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Barry Livingstone

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2006, 05:27:45 pm »
 ???

Nothing is ever EASY or FREE if it was we would all be doing it.............

Dont you think it would be a conflit of interest IF you  are trying to franchise CC also?.................
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jasonl

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2006, 05:29:23 pm »
Yes I am aware of the NCCA, they are relatively passive on the net though, and do not SELL the job for you, they pass out leads.

This is not connected with my own cc operation which is a franchise at all.

Stand on any high street, and try and hand out 10 pound notes, it has been proven that only 40% will take them, no questions asked.
Of course this is a commercial operation, one I feel is a win-win for all.

If you are at the top end of the market price wise this is not for you, like wise if you are at  the bottom end, this is not for you.
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Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2006, 05:38:19 pm »
would this affect my standing as you are 1 of my nearest rivals?

If I pass you my prices you could take advantage.

Shaun

jasonl

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Re: How about this....
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2006, 05:47:56 pm »
Shaun, I already know your prices, you do a different method and service to me, carpet broker pitches prices in the mid range, and is not out to undercut any one, but to get new customers into having carpets proffessionally cleaned, who would not prevously do so.
The response all after noon has been overwhelming, I have put red pins on a uk map, and at least half the uk has a willing operator at a reasonable price, within 15 miles. sorry if I have not yet responded to you all with furthur details, but I will in the next 24 hours. Thanks to all the forward thinking people who have been supportive.
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