[Glen]

Hi all,

I would welcome as many replies as possibel to the following:

What is the definitive way to alter the squeegie ends to minimise detailing? As much detail as possible,please.

I am using GG4 with a dash of Fairy but the rubber is still catching when I turn - If anyone has any advice about the best mixtures for hard water they would be welcome.
Has anyone used Sorboglide? If so, with what degree of success?

I am using the left/right Unger B.O.A.B. but it is scoring the other side of my squeegie  rubbers so I am only getting the use of one side. Can someone tell me how to fix/adapt it?

Finally, has anyone used / come across Microseal uPVC sealer? What do you think?

Thanks for your help,

Glen.

[D.Salkeld_Ltd]

Hi Glen.

I hope I can help a bit

1. Squeegees

Try thishttp://www.cleanitup.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Equipment;action=display;num=1081594357

2. GG4.
I tried some and found it a bit sticky so went back to just plane old Fairy

3. B.O.A.B
sorry can't help...........I don't get any probs

4. UPVc stuf
Sorry..................never heard of it

I hope I've been a little help.  The Dogearing will make squeegeeing a lot sharper and detailing less.

David

[karlosdaze]

You could always try using hard rubber, its more resistant, and it is summer now after all. I don't have any trouble with rubbers in boab.
If your having trouble turning, try a straight pass at the top, it will give you more room to turn after.

[WavieDavie]

I am using GG4 with a dash of Fairy but the rubber is still catching when I turn

You need a lighter touch when using GG3+4, or you could try using a slightly shorter squeegee.

[Glen]

Hi all,

Further to my previous queries:

What is the definitive way to alter the squeegie ends to minimise detailing? As much detail as possible,please

Thanks for the link to the picture, David. Do you just bend the ends down with some narrow-nosed pliers??

I am using GG4 with a dash of Fairy but the rubber is still catching when I turn - If anyone has any advice about the best mixtures for hard water they would be welcome.

I am my wits end with this. I have tried adding double the recommended amount - 4ml of GG4 per litre of water with a squirt of Fairy but it seems to go "flat" in no time i.e. no slip just friction on the glass.
Someone,please, what is the definitive window cleaning mixture for hard water??
Does Sorboglide help??


I am using the left/right Unger B.O.A.B. but it is scoring the other side of my squeegie  rubbers so I am only getting the use of one side. Can someone tell me how to fix/adapt it?

The rubbers get scored where they lean against the dividing channel in the BOAB on the opposite side to what is currently in use. How can I prevent this?


I am using  Unger Ergotec squeegie handles and the rubber has started to move along the channel slightly so I have to keep repositioning it. I have tried tightening the nuts on the handle to no avail. I am now considering filing the two "spikes" which hold the rubber in place to more of a point. Is this advisable?

Finally, how often should the Unger Monsoon sleeve be laundered?

Sorry this is so long winded .


I really would appreciate detailed replies to my queries.

Thanks,

Glen.

[WavieDavie]

Do you just bend the ends down with some narrow-nosed pliers??
Thicker ones are easier to grip and bend with, I find.

no slip just friction on the glass.
How often do you change your blade? I've read of some folk using three sides a day. I probably get two to three days from one side.

what is the definitive window cleaning mixture for hard water??
Slightly off, as I'm in a soft water area and use GG3, but my mix is three measures to a gallon plus some ecover.

Can someone tell me how to fix/adapt it?
Send it back to the supplier, tell them that under the Sale of Goods Act it's not fit for its purpose as it damages equipment it's designed to work with. Ask to get a "Classic" BoaB which only holds one squeegee and keep others in a double holster.

I have tried tightening the nuts on the handle to no avail.
If the mountain won't come to Mohamed . . .  You might need to bend the main part of the handle closer to the moveable part with the "spikes"

how often should the Unger Monsoon sleeve be laundered?
With GG3 I do it once a fortnight or so, but could probably string it out for longer. With that old F***y L****d stuff it had to be once a week, at least, due to the "cloggy-up" effect.

How did you get on finding out about that Microseal uPVC sealer? Was it to use for yourself or to try and get it off glass? Did a search, but couldn't find anything - does it have another name?

[Duke]

no slip just friction on the glass.
How often do you change your blade? I've read of some folk using three sides a day. I probably get two to three days from one side.

blimey, I use the same one for weeks...or until it's 'ad it..  

[pjulk]

I use GG4 in a hardwater area.
I use 3 capfuls of solution to about 1/3rd of a bucket of water and use a monsoon sleeve.

I need to change my rubbers ever couple of days as i find GG4 makes them a bit sticky and start to leave lines.

I wash my sleeves once a week

You may just need to practice a bit more as GG4 take's some getting used to
Try not to rush on the first turn

Paul

[WavieDavie]

blimey, I use the same one for weeks...or until it's 'ad it..

Hi Duke,
I'm impressed, you must have some excellent windows to work on! As soon as I need to wipe a window after it's been bladed - that's when I change the rubber.

Depending on who you get your supplies from, you can get a yard of Pulex for £1 +vat. Now you've got to work out the cost of this against the extra time you waste having to wipe over a window - every window! - if your rubber has even a tiny wee nick in it.

For me, the Original Tight Scot? - no contest!!

[Duke]

Hi WavieDavie,
maybe my technique is different, but then I wipe round and polish up nearly every window anyway.....by the way, did those attachments come through ok ? Or do I need to try again ?

[Ian_Giles]

Why not give the Unger liquid a try? I have been using that for a while now and been surprised by how good it is.
Imperative you don't use too much though.

A snub nose pliers is best for dog earing, you can grip just the right amount to bend.

I don't have the unger BOAB, well I do but don't use it, I prefer the one that is made by another manufacturer (forgotten the name of them though!) This one is blue and not green and I have no problems with the squeegee rubber getting damaged.

Perhaps I have mis-read the reply the one guy (forgot his name ) but if you are using a squeegee why on earth would you want to polish a window after you have cleaned it I can understand a bit of detailing and the odd 'kick' that needs to be buffed up, but certainly not every pane.

I have found that squeegee rubbers can last me weeks per side, though it only takes one tatty window to ruin a side of your rubber.
Also: I too use the channels with the serrated edges for the prongs on the handles to grip, but I still put in the end grips to hold the rubber in place. Prefer the old brass ones though, not a fan of those cheap plastic things that Unger now do.

[John Walker]

Silly question perhaps, but what exactly is a BOAB? - and what do you do with it?  

Yes - you've guessed - I'm a newbie - From this BB I've learnt all about scrims, sqeegees. microfibres and have now had success in using them but now BOAB crops up to confuse me  

[WavieDavie]

Duke,
but then I wipe round and polish up nearly every window anyway.....
Promise me you'll look at "Dog-Earing" - then you won't need to "detail" your windows. And trust me when I tell you that you shouldn't need to polish any window after using a squeegee - when you do, you need to change the rubber! Work out how long that extra polishing takes you against the cost of a new rubber and time saved not having to wipe over the glass.

by the way, did those attachments come through ok ?
They certainly did, and thanks for that too. I sent my profuse thanks on 11/9/04 and it hasn't come back as undeliverable, obviously a wee gremlin in the system somewhere. Computers - doncha just love 'em?


John,
Silly question perhaps, but what exactly is a BOAB? - and what do you do with it?
Bucket on a Belt see . . .
http://cleantech.co.uk/catalogue/product_info.php?cPath=26_41&products_id=69&osCsid=b98e11860a74307ebb75423c9d54bb9b
A wonderful device which you can consider to be your third hand, you put your applicator and squeegee in and have both hands free for climbing ladders. Whatever you do, don't use it as a bucket, or you'll end up with a soggy leg. Moisten your applicator, squeeze off any excess liquid, and then place in the BoaB. This has added benefits too - the more liquid you put on the glass, the more you have to wipe up!

[NBwcs]

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is "dog-earing"? Ran a search on it but it just diverts back to the last reply. Cheers Nick

[Duke]

Promise me you'll look at "Dog-Earing" - then you won't need to "detail" your windows. And trust me when I tell you that you shouldn't need to polish any window after using a squeegee - when you do, you need to change the rubber! Work out how long that extra polishing takes you against the cost of a new rubber and time saved not having to wipe over the glass.

yeah, probably just force of habit really.....

[John Walker]

Thanks Davie

Silly question perhaps, but what exactly is a BOAB? - and what do you do with it?

Bucket On A Belt see ....

Now why couldn't i have worked that out for myself.   :

It's amazing how much I have learnt from this BB in just a matter of weeks.  At least when I go to Windex, I will understand what I am looking at.  

Just imagine turning up without any previous understanding and hearing discussions on RO, BOAB, WFP etc    

[WavieDavie]

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is "dog-earing"? Ran a search on it but it just diverts back to the last reply.

Hi Nick

Take a look at the first reply on this thread and click on the link. Try a search again, but on "dog ear" this time, and on the drop-down over to the right, click on "match  phrase". Choose the two window cleaning boards to save on search time - there's not many carpet cleaners doing dog earing! On "Max age since last post, put in 500 and that should cover most posts I hope, and put in 999 for "display how many results" just in case there's more than you thought.

With the amount of answers you now have, you'll be an instant expert - but bored stiff - on the topic of dog earing. Have fun!


Bucket On A Belt see ....  
Now why couldn't i have worked that out for myself.

Hi John

As they say on Who Wants to be a Millionaire - the questions are all easy unless you don't know the answers!

Just imagine turning up without any previous understanding and hearing discussions on RO, BOAB, WFP etc    
That's the easy bit, it's all the different accents you'll need to watch out for! Yesterday I popped along to Craig and Reuben's one-day course where they had to contend with Invernesian, Aberdonian and us natives from Edinburgh. I have to tell you they coped very well - once they'd tuned in - but there were a few gaps until they'd cottoned on sometimes! I'm lucky, I worked in Inverness for a couple of years, visited Aberdeen but have regular contact with a really broad talking local to keep my "ear" in.
Anyway, I'm sure I'll bump into you at Windex, and if we both talk slow, things will be OK, I'm sure.  

[John Walker]

Anyway, I'm sure I'll bump into you at Windex, and if we both talk slow, things will be OK, I'm sure.  

Hi Davie,

L  o  o  k    f  o  r  w  a   r  d    t  o    m  e  e  t  i  n  g   u p   w i  t h   y o  u    

I'm going on the Friday - will look out for your badge - mine has John Walker and BAXWALKER as the company name.

I owe you a drink for the help you have given me  

[WavieDavie]

It's going to be strange meeting all these usernames in the flesh! I suppose you subconsciously form an idea of what someone's like from their contributions to the boards and I bet I'm going to be wildly wrong for most folk - most probably all!

I hope they provide badge holders at check-in 'cos I ain't putting BluTack on my jacket for anyone. Mine has Davie Park - Dalzell Window Cleaning Service on it.

I owe you a drink for the help you have given me
No problem mate, when you're in a position to help someone else, just pass on what you've picked up from the boards.  

See you on the 8th.

[NBwcs]

Hi Wavie Davie, thanks for that. Ive adapted a couple of sqeegees and can see a difference already just practising at home. Havnt quite got the bend correct yet but I can see that it will speed things up. Cutting the rubber at angles on the ends as others have mentioned does also help.Ive often seen window cleaners "get away" with little detailing and coulnt for the life of me see how they managed it.  Brilliant tip, thanks again
                                                          Nick