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Ken Wainwright

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Re: High PH - Acid Rinse ?
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2008, 08:26:00 pm »
Dave

Your spot on with your comment that if you're using these high pH solutions, then the carpet is shot. That's why I support the Woolsafe position that these solutions are used as a last resort problem solver. However, over the years, I've cleaned some really minging wool carpets with Woolsafe Approved solutions and achieved complete satisfaction for all parties. It does take more time though.

The biggest problem that I see, however, is that inexperienced technicians will see or hear of these high risk procedures, whether via word to mouth or reading on internet forums, and start using them on day to day carpet cleaning.

Which now leads me on to Rich's request. You may find some information on Woolsafe . Org, but without doing searches for myself, I can't point you in any specific direction. So I'll try to address some points myself.

Wool likes to be kept at a pH of between pH5.5 to 8. During scouring, most of the lanolin is stripped from the wool, but a little remains. This helps to keep the wool soft and suppleish. High pH and alkalinity will strip this last bit of lanolin. The carpet may look the same, but the fibres become brittle, feel harsher, break more easily and disappear up the customers vacuum, so by wearing out quicker. For some reason, white yarns seem to be more affected by this than some other colours, especially in direct sunlight (sometimes also if never been cleaned).

Alkaline residues can dull the appearance of a fibre, not just wool. When the carpet is wet, it will look fine and feel soft, but not so good when it has dried. An acidic rinse will certainly lessen this effect.

Wool dyes can have a pH as low as pH2. High pH may leave the fibre at, say,  pH3 after the first clean, pH4 after the second and so on. The point at which a dye will bleed varies, but as you can see, it could happen at some time :-[

High alkaline residues present a greater risk to people and animals who come into contact with them.

There are bound to be other items I could have added, but the above gives you a good place to start.

By the way, THE best training course I have ever attended was the Woolsafe Course by Julie Roberts of Chemspec Europe.  If I were to be King for a day, I would make this course compulsory for all carpet cleaners ;)

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

*paul_moss

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Re: High PH - Acid Rinse ?
« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2008, 08:43:45 pm »
Julie has come a long way over the past few years, even Ken listens to her now :D
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rich hand

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Re: High PH - Acid Rinse ?
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2008, 01:15:09 pm »
Thanks Ken, very helpful

edward coller

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Re: High PH - Acid Rinse ?
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2008, 01:45:50 pm »
Ive been using blitz /truckmount for last 18 months on Brintons/axminster/wiltons/adams etc and also needlecord in tatty flat lets and its great cleans well you can vary strength by mix and imo knocks spots off any other product and not had one hint of a problem  except dealing with the demand from delighted customers  go on be a devil and try it!!!!!! Simon

markpowell

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Re: High PH - Acid Rinse ?
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2008, 02:19:10 pm »
Simon,
Have you done a training course?
I will guarantee you that one day you will end up having a problem on your hands!
Do you ever get any complaints regarding rapid re-soiling?
Do you use blitz on upholstery all the time as well? ???
Mark