[supernova77]

I've been thinking of taking someone on recently to help with my workload.

This morning I was chatting to my step cousin who is looking for some work, he turns 19 in January. He's had a couple of months window cleaning experience in the summer with someone else.

I spoke to him about him working for/with me for 3 days per week. What do you think is a fair hourly or daily rate to pay the lad? Working hours would be about 8:30am - 4pm.

Andy

[windows_chepstow]

If I were you, I'd start low; say 6.50 per hour and increase it when he shows what he's worth.

I recently took a young lad on part time, but what a waste of space he was.  A proper oxygen thief; a total waste of rations. 

In fact he was so lazy, I suspect when he gets married he'll adopt his children!

His time-keeping was at least fifteen minutes out, which really upset me when I'd sorted everything out for an 8.30 am start and he minces up at quarter-to-nine and the clincher was when I caught him sat on a customer's wall having a fAg, when he should've been working.

I didn't have a problem with the smoking, but the 'sat on the wall' bit narked me.  So did his earing.

Sacked.

[supernova77]

Tosh - Did you take this lad on as an employee (paid his tax and NI), or was he a subbie (using his own equipment etc...)?

Sounds like a right waste of space though. Did you know him before he worked for you?

I'm thinking of paying him a daily rate of £60 which works out at about £8.50 per hour... Does that seem too much for a 19 year old with not much experience?

Maybe I should pay him £50 per day 

Andy

[LSB]

I agree £6.50 is a good price to start at at , you can mention to him that it may increase over the months depending on how things go ! i know some w/cs pay a dailly wage regardless of whether they work a whole day due to weather etc ! i pay per hour worked !  you may need to be specific on this !

[ducky]

£60 a day what am i doing up her.i get £6 an hour and been doing it 9 years that it bags packet and on my way.      start him of on min wage and go from ther that way u can see his progresse 

[P®oPole™]

Lol Tosh,

That takes the p.iss if he was sat on my customers wall smoking, I would of give him a clip behind the ear. Not all youngsters are like that most probably are but if you look hard enough you will find a little graffter.

Andy,

Some young people are motivated and capable of doing anything you and I can, I had a 17 year old lad who was a very compitient shiner, wfp and trad. It takes a bit of time to train them up then you have to chissel them into polite well spoken gentlemen.

Fifty pounds isnt bad to start him off, I used to pay mine for what we got done, usually around £45-£55 but there was a couple of good days a week were he would get £75-80 probably around 25% of monies earned. The only prob is when you train them up and put there money up they will allways think there worth more and even that you cannot cope without them! I think the best thing to do which is how im going to operate untill I no longer have to work get them when there young 16 train them up and lose them when there 18-19 then start again.

Make sure you train him from day one to work to your standard, and drill into him all the time about the importance of working in a safe manor.

Good Luck

ProPole

[Kev TWC]

hi the north and south divide must be bigger than i ever thought 300 pound a week for a 19 yr old lad           we employ a 19 yr old starts at 7am till 3pm 140.00 a week 3.50 per hour yes it is mimimun wage ,so if you are paying 300 for a 19 yr old what does a 30 yr old get  experienced 600 /800 ? the only thing i am led to belive i must be a mean boss .

[P®oPole™]

,so if you are paying 300 for a 19 yr old what does a 30 yr old get  experienced 600 /800 ? the only thing i am led to belive i must be a mean boss .

Hi Kev,

A trained 19 year old could do easily do as much work as a 30 year old.

ProPole

[Neil Williams]

£6.50/hr for first month with possible increases should he be staying after that trial period.
Asda pay over £5/hour and all for the confort of sitting behind a till in the warm and dry (winters coming remember). And for those who pay £5/hour window cleaning I know where I would prefere to be earning that money.

[Kev TWC]

hi propole you got me wrong i wasnt saying that a 19 yr old could not do as much as a 30yr old if not more,it was the rate ov pay , how much is the 19yr old expecting to get working for somebody when he reaches 25/30 . i thought the rate of 300 for a weeks wages for a 19yr old was a lot .     kev

[supernova77]

It wouldn't be £300 per week, because he would only be working with me 3 days per week.

I think I'm going to offer him £50 per day.

Andy

[bumper]

£300.00 a week less tax and insurance that will take his wages to about  £225 a week

[Helen]

careful!! careful!! could be getting ageist here and the old powers to be don't like that
Kev twc - where do you get thet min rate from?
Hey Neil, do you get staff discount at Asda?
Start 'em low and work 'em hard, see if they stick it first, before thinking about them earning really good money. As they get better and more trustworthy, introduce a "binus" scheme or something along those lines, or even put them on a percentage commissiom of how much they bring i ;Dn that day

[crystal.clear]

i have a 21 year old working with for me. he's worked for me for two years now. i started off paying him 60 a day he is now on £110 a day

[Helen]

£300 gross per week is equivalent £15600 per year, not bad for a 19 year old in this trade, or pro rata for less days per week.
But remember that's an extra Approx £26 per week that you have to pay for employers contribution to NI , so nearly £19k pay out all in all

[Helen]

Crystal!!!! what equivalent gross figure does he contribute to the business?

[crystal.clear]

well today he earnt £210 for the day. but on averge about £175

[Helen]

seeing as you've had him for 2 years I guess he is good and it's nice to see someone that values a good worker, hope you keep hold of him

[crystal.clear]

he's going no where  i've tied him to the ladder

[D woods]

A tip for everyone if you are going to employ someone to work alongside
you pay them by the hour . If you pay them them by the day or the week
they will constantly be looking to pack up and go home.