[steveaqua]

aparently if you link your site to a load of others that helps in being picked up by searches don't it?

If you repeat your meta tags on each page of your site this can be classed as spamming as these are what the spiders will pick up when searching, got told to use alternate phrases to dismiss them from being classed as spamming

[DaveWilkinson]

Meta tags are meant to be a discription of the key points of your site, the spiders read the meta tags and then check the text of your page, they will pick up straight away if your meta tags are nothing like your web page content.

If your web page has lots of graphics and not alot of text you can put an alternative text tag on your pictures, you will see this when you hold your mouse over a picture in a web page, before the picture loads the text is displayed, this is also very good for helping your position on search engines.

While your downloading dodgy versions of software from limewire ( virus laiden, so try torrents instead ) look for a program called web postion gold, it will look at your web page like a spider does and tell you what needs improved, it also has many other great features too. I gained alot of 1st page rankings on google with a little studying.

A large plc company p**sed me off a few years ago and I proceeded to get my links in google and many other search engines above the said plc ( 8 out of 10 first page listings were pointing to my site not theres ). And it cost me a grand total of 20 quid for the hosting,domain name and design and ranking.

[Paul Coleman]

Meta tags are meant to be a discription of the key points of your site, the spiders read the meta tags and then check the text of your page, they will pick up straight away if your meta tags are nothing like your web page content.

If your web page has lots of graphics and not alot of text you can put an alternative text tag on your pictures, you will see this when you hold your mouse over a picture in a web page, before the picture loads the text is displayed, this is also very good for helping your position on search engines.

While your downloading dodgy versions of software from limewire ( virus laiden, so try torrents instead ) look for a program called web postion gold, it will look at your web page like a spider does and tell you what needs improved, it also has many other great features too. I gained alot of 1st page rankings on google with a little studying.

A large plc company p**sed me off a few years ago and I proceeded to get my links in google and many other search engines above the said plc ( 8 out of 10 first page listings were pointing to my site not theres ). And it cost me a grand total of 20 quid for the hosting,domain name and design and ranking.

I knew a guy (not personally but through the web) who found another way to get to the top of the rankings.  Apparently, many search engines disallowed your request if you wrote to them too much (don't know if it's still like that).  So he wrote to the search engines quite a bit while pretending to be from opposing companies.  Got the opposition down the rankings by getting them done for spamming.
Dirty but it worked.

[DaveWilkinson]

Yeah shiner thats true, if you submit to the search engines too much it counts as spam, and its also a long proccess getting listed on the engines, once a spider has crawled your site it can take 2 months before they actually index ( list ) your site on the search engine so its a long process.

Its also wise to have a good hit counter on your site that keeps stats on who has visited as this will tell you which search engines have crawled your site. It also tells you how your visitors found your site, ie links from search engines or other sites.

[steveaqua]

this is all interesting stuff, i can see how having images on my site instead of text is afecting it being listed so i will change it this weekend to make it text.

I've got a decent virtual panel onit where it tells me all the hits, hourly, daily, monthly, where there coming from etc etc.

The only thing i don't know guys is how to submit my site to engines, it used to be straight forward years ago with a simple link to submit it. can't find that anymore.

as i said in a previous post my other site definatly got found by being on yell, it went from 30 hits a month to just under a 1000  in the space of four weeks, at first it all came from yell, now when i look at the panel it is being hit from google, yahoo, ask and a few others.   

Its always been a little sketchy when i've asked  other people of how to get my sites listed no-one can really give me a straight answer so never had a real straight forward step by step instruction of how to do it.

I've been instructed to

a) always list within the meta tags and don't repeat phrases otherwise the spiders will reject it as spamming
b) use as much descriptive body text as possible (not practiced that :)
C) link to as many other sites as possible you will more chance of a spider indexing it

I haven't done B&C but was gonna go with yell at the end of the year to  see if i get same result as me other site.