[macleod]

yep,

been asked to quote for a little chapel...

question is has anyone done this with wfp/water and with what results...

the stone window frames have been cleaned and so there is no protective grill on any windows...

plus anything else i should be aware of?

not sure if i should quote...

[Johnboyfree]

Hiya,As its a Chapel does it have stained glass windows?or is it a modern building?

[macleod]

stained and leaded

[macleod]

by the way the windows are at a school chapel and they have removed the protective grills!!!!

[Terry_Burrows]

this brings back memorys of when I cleaned church windows years ago,we cleaned and cleaned but no good looked krap,all the colours were faded, then : I had an idea high gloss floor polish :-XI tried a small bit of glass while the vicar was not looking bless me god for I have sinned wow he shone down upon me so the rest of the polish went on the inside only,and all the colours came back
the vicar was pleased now I have spilled the holy bread on the Internet I will never go up now

[Johnboyfree]

The reason why I asked is if they are old stained/leaded no matter what other people say they should not be cleaned with water,or any other cleaning agent,use only a small dry brush(the sort you would use for painting)and dry brush them clean,if they are modern leaded/stained windows water/scrim will sufice.

[macleod]

oh my

the god of window cleaners has spoke to me!

thanks turbo 

[Johnboyfree]

this brings back memorys of when I cleaned church windows years ago,we cleaned and cleaned but no good looked krap,all the colours were faded, then : I had an idea high gloss floor polish :-XI tried a small bit of glass while the vicar was not looking bless me god for I have sinned wow he shone down upon me so the rest of the polish went on the inside only,and all the colours came back
the vicar was pleased now I have spilled the holy bread on the Internet I will never go up now
I cant believe that some one who is held in such high esteem would stoop so low,not only that but I was allways told you were so fast it didnt matter if people watched they couldnt see what you were doing anyway

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[Roy Harding]

Also check your insuarance as a lot of churches etc are excluded because of the replacement cost.

Roy

[aztec]

they wont look any different mate so dont bother!!!

[macleod]

thats my biggest worry - that they will not look any different.

has anyone got any experience?

[Johnboyfree]

I have or are we talking windows?

[Johnboyfree]

As I said earlier,it depends on how old they are,the Pariochal(I think thats how its spelt)Churches of England will not/should not let you clean there windows with anything other than a dry brush,as water harms the lead and the glass as do solvents and cleaners,and they are listed buildings so you have to be carefull,and as Roy pointed out,check youre insurance.

[macleod]

how can a dry brush do anything other than scrap the windows with the dirt?

any more experience... in cleaning leaded, tinted church windows?

[Johnboyfree]

Because that is all you can do,leaded windows on a church have to look aged,not dirty or sparkling clean,its called keeping in look with the building,lead and stained glass has a patena(a certain look) to it,that must be kept,you cant have churches 100s years old with brand new looking lead and windows,they just dont go......apparantly.That is why the Church Council wont let you clean with anything else....Im not saying the Vicar/Pastor/Priest wont,He/She might just not know...

[macleod]

thanks jb

yeah, i guess i could brush the windows, and they look the same...

i understand what your saying... i guess its that "it must be clean eough to eat off" mentality that i have..

[Johnboyfree]

If all else fails I seem to remember The National Trust does A Manual of Housekeeping,I dont know if its available online but that is where I started to get my info from,or you can try the Guild of Mastercraftsman...

[MNWC]

How strange.... just cleaned local baptist church today with small diamond shaped leaded windows.
Done it with wfp outside only.

You could see where i have been but didnt leave the windows sparkling !!

but as i said it was only outside if i had done inside as well it might be a different story

Marcus

[macleod]

this building is maybe less than 100 years old

[Johnboyfree]

How strange.... just cleaned local baptist church today with small diamond shaped leaded windows.
Done it with wfp outside only.

You could see where i have been but didnt leave the windows sparkling !!

but as i said it was only outside if i had done inside as well it might be a different story

Marcus

If you ever do the inside I would strongly advise against wfp.....cant think why though