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parkho059774

Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2006, 10:00:37 pm »

They are real mate, I have seen this many times. They only usually get out to clean the third georgian row down ( top geogian row on lower opening window) this is because when you open it you can only clean the top window and part of the bottom. the row I mentioned above is impossible to reach as it goes up inside when you open the window.

ProPole

Eh? Ok the photos are fake. If anyone can take a PROPER photo then I will Analyse it.

P®oPole™

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2006, 10:45:43 pm »
 ::) ::)

Wake up mate, you dont have to be clever to see there real pics. This is standard even to this day in U.K citys, I personally see stuff like this all the time were as you get to look at sheep, cows and fields which dont get me wrong is a nice thing to see and look at when working, but in the real world there is alot more going on than you think.

ProPole

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2006, 10:56:23 pm »
They're real to my eyes.
I've never done much of that sort of thing, but I know a lot of people do.

One thing worries me. The guy in the 2nd picture appears to be holding a bunch of flowers, not a squeegee. ;D

Pat Purcell

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2006, 10:58:31 pm »
Sorry Andy I will type slower and use smaller words ;D
Boston USA    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Cork Ireland

parkho059774

Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2006, 11:00:37 pm »
::) ::)

Wake up mate, you dont have to be clever to see there real pics. This is standard even to this day in U.K citys, I personally see stuff like this all the time were as you get to look at sheep, cows and fields which dont get me wrong is a nice thing to see and look at when working, but in the real world there is alot more going on than you think.

ProPole

Ok Mr professional, earn your £600 a day and then tell me about it. Those photos are FAKE BTW. If you want to believe those photos are real then make sure you leave your tooth under your pillow as well.

parkho059774

Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2006, 11:03:47 pm »
Sorry Andy I will type slower and use smaller words ;D

Well paragraphs would be a start  :)

P®oPole™

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2006, 11:05:40 pm »
I have earnt not far of that sum a few times before mate when I was 20, how old are you? (not boasting but just shuting you up) hahahah ;D ;D ;D ;D (mug)

Come back and try be-little me when your a bit smarter village boy.

Pro

WavieDavie

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2006, 11:12:18 pm »
::) ::)

Wake up mate, you dont have to be clever to see there real pics. This is standard even to this day in U.K citys, I personally see stuff like this all the time were as you get to look at sheep, cows and fields which dont get me wrong is a nice thing to see and look at when working, but in the real world there is alot more going on than you think.

ProPole

Ok Mr professional, earn your £600 a day and then tell me about it. Those photos are FAKE BTW. If you want to believe those photos are real then make sure you leave your tooth under your pillow as well.

Andy

Trust me, before wfp and H&S came to the fore, most folk worked like that. I remember taking a 6ft double ladder onto sills to do tall windows with extractor fans in them on a city centre office - basement, ground, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th floors.
Mind you, they were wide sills  8)
You're a Scottish window-cleaner? Licensed or not, get yourself along to www.slwcn.org right now !

Davie Park
Dalzell Window Cleaning Service - Edinburgh www.windowscleaner.co.uk

parkho059774

Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2006, 11:51:36 pm »
I have earnt not far of that sum a few times before mate when I was 20, how old are you? (not boasting but just shuting you up) hahahah ;D ;D ;D ;D (mug)

Come back and try be-little me when your a bit smarter village boy.

Pro

I'm 25. To be honest I have read these forums for a long time and ProPole you are just a joke. You talk the talk always........and then I fall asleep. You probably earn £30 a day with a tea towel

parkho059774

Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2006, 11:58:14 pm »
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Andy

Trust me, before wfp and H&S came to the fore, most folk worked like that. I remember taking a 6ft double ladder onto sills to do tall windows with extractor fans in them on a city centre office - basement, ground, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th floors.
Mind you, they were wide sills  8)
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Just look at the photo. How did they get up there? H&S is cool as long as you can explain how they got to the window. I don't care about he said this or they did that, This topic is about those photos and as those photos are fake!

BTW Tosh you are a star!

Pat Purcell

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2006, 12:04:34 am »
The first photo the guy stepped out thru the window that opens on the left, the second photo he lifted up the lower sash  and climbed out then closed it
I know nothing about photography so couldnt tell you if they are fake or not but they are definitly possible I see that all the tme and have done it in the past
Boston USA    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Cork Ireland

parkho059774

Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2006, 12:10:46 am »
The first photo the guy stepped out thru the window that opens on the left, the second photo he lifted up the lower sash  and climbed out then closed it
I know nothing about photography so couldnt tell you if they are fake or not but they are definitly possible I see that all the tme and have done it in the past

Yes and they all went home to the Little House on the Prairie. Hear the words "Image Manipulation."

 

Pat Purcell

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2006, 12:21:56 am »
Andy by your responses you seem to firmly believr that the photos are fake is this due to a knowledge of photography or can you not believe that someone would do this
Boston USA    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Cork Ireland

parkho059774

Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2006, 12:29:12 am »
Andy by your responses you seem to firmly believr that the photos are fake is this due to a knowledge of photography or can you not believe that someone would do this

Yes of course people do this. The photos are fake though. Just look at them for a second

Pat Purcell

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2006, 12:34:38 am »
Ok the second photo,if you look at the top right hand corner you can see that the sun is casting a shadow which tells you which direction the sun is shining from, the sun is not shining on the wall or the window but is reflecting off the guys back which is sticking out a little past both which would be roughly where you would expect it to be
I know that can be faked but would you go to that much bother
Boston USA    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Cork Ireland

Pat Purcell

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2006, 12:45:42 am »
Exactly how old are you andy , should you be up this late
Boston USA    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Cork Ireland

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2006, 08:05:09 am »
Andy, do you fancy Tosh?

You've complimented him so often, and you've got to ask why.
Stick around, he'll offend you too soon. ;D

stevekennedy

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #57 on: October 20, 2006, 12:29:08 pm »
They are real mate, I have seen this many times. They only usually get out to clean the third georgian row down ( top geogian row on lower opening window) this is because when you open it you can only clean the top window and part of the bottom from the inside. the row I mentioned above is impossible to reach as it goes up inside when you open the window.

ProPole

Exactly! The first pic does look a bit dodgy, but the second one with the georgians looks real.

A mate of mine used to work for a well known firm in Edinburgh who cleaned windows this way. He said he was usually stoned at the time.

He has since turned his life around. When he gave up drugs, he found he was no good with hieghts anymore and changed his occupation. Now he can't believe what he used to do. He would climb out the first window of a bay and shimmy round the ledge to get the other two panes. Three or four storeys up on crumbling 200 yr old sandstone buildings. Sheer madness.

Another friend of mine was cleaning an awkward dormer window. It was awkward becaude it was painted shut! So he climbed out of the next window and scrambled accross the slate roof to get to it. 45ft up! As he is cleaning the window, it starts to rain. You know where this is going...

He tries to get back accross the roof to the open window. His feet start to give way. He is sliding down the roof. "My feet will catch the steel gutter" he thinks as he watches the gutter go past his face. He landed half on grass and half on a rock garden.

His head was split open, fractured jaw, broken shoulder, arm and wrists. One elbow is smashed beyond use. The security guard who saw him fall and saw the aftermath needed counselling. Seriously!

I went into the A.R.I. to see him just after it happened. I wanted to throw up. I started working safer after that. It took him two years and many operations to recover. Of course, he feels lucky to be alive at all, and he IS. He has re-trained as a surveyor now and is doing well. EVery time you see him though, he is rubbing that elbow which gives him constant pain.

Andy, you may find it hard to believe in these photos. You are American. Your country doesnt have so many old buildings. Your country also has a very litigious society. In other words, if somebody got injured by using these practices they would get sued, BIG TIME! This has led to safer work practices and window designs. However, until recently, the UK has had a very relaxed attitude to such things. Therefore, there are still a generation of window cleaners who use these practices. No, REALLY!!

I don't need photos Andy. I have seen it with my own eyes, people I know have done it, people I know have been seriously hurt doing it. One has died doing it.

Regards

PS Andy. I have visited the States many times and I agree, it is a fantastic place.

poleman

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #58 on: October 20, 2006, 02:04:52 pm »
About ten years ago, I visited a window cleaner that broke his leg so badly when he fell of the ladder that it had to be take off at the knee, is a pain of glass worth this?!?!?!

     

jeff1

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Re: Stupid window cleaner
« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2006, 02:42:16 pm »
Andy take a look at these photo's and tell us if you think there fake, this topic was posted some months back by one of our Lady WC.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=24289.0