[james cairns]

gazz get a backpack from cleantech for £175
small 5lt di from cleantech with resin £35
pole from windowwarehose £80


and do only the windows that are ackward like roofs etc

if you do 10 houses in a street rattle around the bottoms and the safe upstairs windows, then park the ladder
and lift the pole for the odd window that you find ackward, this way your resin will last you ages keeping your costs down and not needing to run the costs of ro etc,these things come once you are a bit bigger

hope this helps
jinky

[geefree]

cheers jinky,

looks like i will go for that.. thanks.

need malc to reply to my email.. so i can start the ball rolling as apparently he is the man !

malc ... u there ?

[petski2]

Please please please listen Gazza its false economy.
I know for a fact that your tds will be between 250 and 400
Resin wont last 2 minutes.
To produce your water you need an RO.
Its all very well saying to tide you over use DI resin.
Ok you do your first year with DI,you will use approx 4x25ltr bags,roughly £280.
My Merlin RO cost me £300ish,no more expense required apart from changing filters etc once in a blue moon.
So you pay £280 for resin to TIDE YOU OVER then go out and pay for an RO.
Dont make sense.
Everyone seems to be telling you to make all the same mistakes that I made.
Buy the good gear and you will prosper.
Take the cheap route and you will end up paying much more in the long run.
All I am doing is repeating what some of the lads said to me on here a couple of years ago but I didnt listen.
Finished up buying twice and having a load of crap gear in my garage. :

[geefree]

pete i know you are helpingh me .

but to show how naive i am regarding wfp...

i did not understand all that post, as i do not know what i need or what things are called,,

 but i certainly cant afford thousands even via a loan...

so was just looking to hit all the calls i miss ... because i cant use a ladder.

i think im confused now 

[petski2]

Sorry mate.
Look its really simple.
To work with water fed pole you need:
A means of obtaining pure water.
Three ways of doing this:
Buy from me:

DI..This is a cylinder filled with resin,you hook a water supply to it,water goes in one end then comes out of other end pure.Problem is resin costs £70ish for 25ltrs which in our area (poor water) will only last a couple of months.

RO:Initial outlay is bigger as I said my Merlin cost £300ish,however thats it,attach the ro to your water supply and it comes out of the other end (slower than DI but you produce it at home for next day)pure.No resin to buy every few weeks.The membranes and filters will need changing every now and again (which wont be often if like me you only wfp upstairs).

Thats the water sorted:
Now you need a means of getting the water to the windows:
We use a trolley (omnitrolley) we also have a van mount but only use this on commercials.
You put the water in the trolley and the trolley pumps the water to your pole and onto the glass.

The pole simply connects to the trolley with a good old fashioned hozelock fitting.

Loads of places you can get poles from but mine are from Gardinerpolesystems.co.uk
I would recommend going for 24ft pole rather than 18ft as this gives you the option of cleaning the high windows above conservatories (its a real stretch with 18ft).
There ya go mate any questions I will answer when ya come round next week.

[matt]

you can get a RO / DI system from RO-MAN for under 100 quid

get that instead, as it works out cheaper in the long run

[geefree]

thanks pete, i understand better now.... whos ro man malc.

[petski2]

www.ro-man.com

[geefree]

Thanks pete

right i need to start getting a kit together,  will start with a back pack tho, ...i dont yet understand too much of whats on malcs site,... im just a ladder man  ... there are hundreds of things on RO-mans too.

sorry for sounding thick,

i didnt think you needed all that equipment just to wash a window ..... but i need to start as sometimes as you know round here the house are porch and sloping roof mad!.... i dont just mean an odd window can be left..... i mean an odd window may be suitable for a ladder lol.

gary

[james cairns]

gazz sorry about not saying about the ro, your tds is high and you might be better listening to petski etc, but however keep it simple

do the whole house or houses and just have the backpack ready with pole to do the odd window keeping you safe, this way you have no hassle with tons of water hoses snagging on bins bushes toys garden furniture, running back and forward for refills etc, and not too many open windows giving you more hassle

oh forget did the lads not tell you about this side of wfp and the extra costs

jinky
ps tip for backpack

if using an 18ft pole keep the hose 18ft, unless on a trolley
spare batterries for backpack from city electrical factors - 400 shops nation wide
they cost £12 plus vat, cheapest i have found, for 12 quid they are
worth having

[geefree]

THANKS JINKY

oops,

Thats really helpful ... and thats just what i need to hear , i will keep it simple , just as you said...

just need to buy it now,

thanks.

gary

[poleman]

Light & cheap poles...http://www.brodexbms.co.uk/assets/waterfedpoles-ad.pdf 

Andy

[james cairns]

gary you could go one step simpler

just buy a wfp pole which is light and place an applicator then a sweegee on the end of it to clean the odd window, make up a sperate bucket of gg3 to keep the suds down

this way you dont need to buy the backpack etc right away, and if you do go that direction you already have a wfp pole

its not that hard to do once you have the hang of it a sweegee on the end of a pole, it was done this way for years before wfp, and you can become just as quick as cleaning a normal window

their is plenty of guys on here with pole experience with sweegees, and they will pass their tips on to you, but that is another issue

hope this helps jinky
ps maybe some of the lads on the site are getting rid of an old pole, just a thought

[brett walker]

There is a Shurflo backpack on ebay, 
item number- 260034739755

Brett

[poleman]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Water-Fed-Pole-window-cleaning-12-volt-80psi-Backpack_W0QQitemZ180032911264QQihZ008QQcategoryZ112579QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[geefree]

thanks lad are they good prices... i just had a look at both,,,,,,

hey hang on i have a 20 litre back pack which i used for chemical spraying when i pressure washed driveways... similar to the one at 199 on ebay..... would it be any good or would it not suit wfp?

gary.

[JohnL]

Further to my previous post on this thread - heres a pic of the kit on site

 

JohnL

[geefree]

Thanks again..

jinky.... yes i have been doing that and with good results, but i have lots of houses in my area where there are not so steep sloping roofs in front of whole of house... so i may talk a customer about doing an odd one this way but not 3 or 4 windows.... also i cant tell for sure the results although one or two have let me in to check as  i had to do a couple of inside cleans too, so not bad at it ....

john that gear is a bargain, those on e bay are alien to me at present... i simply dont have a clue.

gary.