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Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2006, 06:26:57 pm »
Hi everyone,

I know everyone wants to know and I don’t blame you all. However, please understand, I must try and do this by the book.

So if anyone forwards me their details and states that they are an FWC member, I will supply them with the details. If they then supply you or any other person with the details, that is down to them.


Andrew

matt

Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2006, 06:37:12 pm »
fair enough i guess

just incase any1 feels the need my e.mail address is on the side   ;)

matt

Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2006, 08:55:50 pm »
thanks for all the e.mail folks :)

i now know the shocking details, so people can stop sending me them

big thanks go out to Mr X and Mr Nobody (you lot should get out more  ;), or at least contact MI5 ;))

FED members, Get in touch with Andrew NOW, its your FED, these clowns should be representing YOU, you should have a say

i notice how no1 has commented from the FED, silence is defening

Oh and well done andrew


a disclaimer, i dont know if they are clowns, they might have red noses and big shoes, this is just hearsay and not libelous in any way, shape or form

Steve Lowe

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Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2006, 09:08:08 pm »
Hi Matt
           I will gladly answer any questions that any members want answering! My details are on my website. One thing you do need to consider is that the fwc is managed by a commitee and the majority vote gets what it wants. I would also like to point out i was not one of the majority.

Steve
Steven J Lowe MBICSc

Lowes Cleaning Services Limited
www.lowescleaning.com

matt

Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2006, 10:11:21 pm »
Hi Matt
           I will gladly answer any questions that any members want answering!

Steve, as you know full well im not a member, i think in this thread i have stated that fact, many will say "its nothng to do with me", whilst i agree with that to a degree, the FED was setup to represent Window cleaners (its members who are window cleaners really) but you are a mouth piece of the industry by default

i guess i wouldnt be a be able to become a member, because i would be asking questions after the PH episode and now this current "episode", ive done a bit of work with the GMB whilst i was working for a local council, what went on at the grass roots level was a joke, nevermind what went on higher up the "food chain", thus i would never join up and be party to this


I would also like to point out i was not one of the majority.



so i guess you dont agree with what the others are doing, you must have been 1 of the few who abstained from voting. good on you for having morals

DASERVICES

Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2006, 09:02:19 am »

  I spoke to 2 Fed members who are unaware of what is going on, problem is
  they are not on the internet. ( old guys )

  How do they obtain this info if it is that bad.

  Cheers

  Doug

Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2006, 07:21:32 pm »
Hi Matt
           I will gladly answer any questions that any members want answering!
Steve

I find this a strange attitude to take with the many potential members you could get from the free 'advertising' gained on sites such as this one.

Granted, I'm not a member; I won't ever be one with that sort of stance either; but what's so bad about the FWC that it's all got to be kept 'hushed up'?




paulsmith

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Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2006, 07:31:27 pm »
as steve has stated the majority vote will always get its way even though i personally did as steve has done and i would also answer any fed members querys as best i can
Paul smith ABICSc
Executive Council Member of the FWC

matt

Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2006, 07:40:30 pm »

  I spoke to 2 Fed members who are unaware of what is going on, problem is
  they are not on the internet. ( old guys )

  How do they obtain this info if it is that bad.

  Cheers

  Doug

you could get a FED member to send you the details, then print them out

OR

get the details off the bloke and E>mail it to andrew, he will give you the details and your away

good job people like andrew are on the ball, otherwise members would have been like mushrooms

its all very underhand and secret

another saucer of cream any1  :P :P

Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2006, 07:45:33 pm »
Would it be possible for a Fed Member to ask the question, 'What's going on?' on this forum, so we can see what the FWC is about?

The secrecy and the sound of 'under-handed dealings' is killing me.

What's so bad that Steve Lowe and Paul Smith, both Executive Members of the FWC Committee (I think) couldn't or wouldn't or refused to vote against?

I have a little-bit of an accountancy background behind me, and I reckon it's something to do with the investments the FWC have made; and certain memebers of the Committee are going to profit from them.

IE.  Some individuals on the Executive Comittee are going to profit from FWC member's, membership money.

Am I right?  Close?

Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2006, 07:46:42 pm »
Hi everyone

I would like to commend Steve and Paul for coming forward and being slightly open on this situation (I say slightly because if they answered none FWC members questions, they would probably loose their positions on the committee). It is great to see these two guys have morals and have followed them, give yourselves a pat on the back.

What is amazing (well it isn’t really) is that none of the top notches (no disrespect to you two guys) have answered any questions on the forums or issued any form of statement on the matter. But like other people in the past, when a question is raised, the doors get closed, which does more damage than good.

I have spoken to several FWC members on phone about the issues I have raised and the web site where all the information is. My firm belief is people are not reading the site properly or reading between the lines. For some strange reason, they all believe it is about me not wanting them to buy the building. Well yes, I do not want them to buy the building, why should they?

The FWC have been in the building for in or around 40 years. They would be classed as sitting tenants, due to this; the building would have to be sold by the insurance society with them as tenant. Granted the building may have to be sold at a lower value, due to the new owners having tenants. But this happens all the time. So why do they want to purchase it?

Please all FWC members, take your time reading the information and digest it.

Many Thanks

Andrew


Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2006, 08:30:53 pm »
Just bumping this topic up, so no FWC members miss it  ;D

abacus

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Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2006, 10:03:08 pm »
Hi mate
I have emailed you but heard nothing I am a member have been for years and  have not heard of any problems please explain i'll to give member no ect if you require


its sad the world and his wife Know and thier not members im still in the dark
my details are shown at the side

regards grant
A service you can count on
SAFEcontractor approved

Terry_Burrows

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Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2006, 04:13:33 pm »
Time to clear one thing up at this stage,if you thought I was on the Board I am not,I have been off for quite a while now my personal reasons for coming off,the main one Traveling 250mls for a meeting :o other than that
I did enjoy the meetings and getting insight to our Industry, and I do miss the Board around the table :) pity it was all to far away
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davidsabishop

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Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2006, 07:12:45 pm »
Don't join either join the nawc ;D
www.nawc.biz

ducky

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Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2006, 10:38:19 pm »
why all the s55t .thats what i want to no.u are putting people of joining???? >:(
if it cleans we will clean it

ducky

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Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2006, 11:12:43 pm »
well  ??? ???
if it cleans we will clean it

Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2006, 07:54:13 am »
Hi Tosh

Give yourself a pat on the back mate, you can see exactly what is happening. I just wish some of their members could see this.

Andrew

Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2006, 04:58:21 pm »
well  ??? ???

Well what?

Ducky, are you a member?

ducky

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Re: Attention all FWC Members
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2006, 05:09:29 pm »
why all the fuss about buying a building. ::)was thinking of joining.
if it cleans we will clean it