the thread is running out of steam now
It's been a good un' though
Some of the debate has been good, regards technique and speed to achieve a quality finish.
Poor old Peter's method's have been slated, and all without anyone having the slightest clue as to whether his results are good or bad.
I feel a little guilty now for displaying his little demonstration clips.
People have picked all sorts of holes in it, what about bird muck, what about greasy windows, or salty windows, how did he get around the backand so on and so on....
Ok, I knew it was going to cause a fair few arguments, those couple of windows were cleaned very quickly indeed, but Peter read the thread and defended his corner robustly, he is a pro, he knows what he is talking about and I'll lay any money you like that those windows were spotless when completed.
I've never known Peter give false or misleading information, anyone who has had dealings with him will tell you the same.
can a window be cleaned that wuick and achieve good results?
Of course it can!
Take a close look at the type of windows he is cleaning, they are very straight forward windows, with very little in the way of frames.
Done trad the larger window would take no more than a minute, tops, providing yo uare pretty experienced, and some might even get it done in 45 seconds, but 45 seconds or a minute and you would be watching someone work very quickly indeed.
climb ladder.
Wet the glass with aplicator, just shy of the edges, not too much water on sleeve.
Applicator back in BOAB, whip out squeegee, and skillfully blade of glass, a quick pass with squeegee over the sill and back down the ladder.
Now if many can complete that window in under a minute they will be flying, were that to be video'd and shown in a tiny window, no end of you would be saying, no way, how could yo upossibly do a good job in that time, what about detailing? What about the frames? why wasn't the sill washed and wiped with a scrim? Why wasn't the glass scrubbed more thoroughly with the applicator?
Not many of us would be ble to clean that window in 17 seconds with WFP, thats fast.
Equally, very few of us (even after many years) could climb ladder, do window trad and climb back down ladder all in under a minute.
And anyone that thinks they could do that easy peasy in a minute or less....video yourselves and prove it!
I'm telling you that is a real challenge for the trad cleaner, yo udon't believe me? well instead of coming on here and bragging that you could do it with one hand tied behind your back....prove it!!
I'll allow you to have the ladder in place, but the timing starts from the moment you start to climb the ladder and ends when you are on the ground!
If you time Peter, it is 17 seconds from lifting the pole to moving on to the next window!
Don't come on here saying piece of cake, film yourself in action and slap the evidence on something like photobucket and post a lnk on the forum...Peter is there to be shot at (er....sorry Peter, my fault
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Unless you are trying to race, you won't get much under a minute, oh, and should Turbo Terry read this....you are banned from competing!!!
so, can you clean a window of the same size as the bigger of the two windows that Peter cleaned in under a minute? (upstairs and under the stipulations I have stated)
Anyone can come on here and brag they can do it, what I want to see is proof!!!
so, die hard trad guys, or even WFP guys that think they are the bee's knees, I've thrown the gauntlet down!
do you think you're hard enough?
Can you walk the walk as well as talk the talk??
Ian