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Philip Hanson

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The Fed - A Balanced View
« on: April 13, 2004, 03:17:04 pm »
I think its time we got things in perspective a little with regard to the fed.  Here are some facts:

The Fed is the ONLY professional windocleaners association.  As such it is obviously an excellent source of trade info.

Commitee Members are not employed by the Fed, they give of their time and effort, and are only reimbursed expenses.  I'm sure we'd all like to express our appreciation for the work they do, which is often behind the scenes, and is not for personal gain.

The European Work at Height Directve consultative document specifically mentions the fed, so it is clear they have had heavy involvement with negotiating the new regulations.  As other countries have banned ladders completely, not just members but ALL window cleaners owe a debt of gratitude to the fed for its representation.

An Increase in Overhead is NOT necessarily a bad thing.  For example, this may indicate a step-up in marketing activity by the fed. This is definately a good thing.

A large bank balance gives a great deal of flexibility.  If the fed were to decide on a course of action (like increased marketing for example) its good to know that the resources would be there.

Annual subscription of about £50 a year is good value for money by anyone's standards.  I know of no other trade organisation that has such small subscriptions.

Salary cost disclosed in the accounts is extremely moderate.  No-one could accuse the fed of operating inefficiently with regard to staff.  This must mean that a lot of work is put in behind the scenes.  Well done to all concerned.

The Fed has subscribed to DAS legal assistance on behalf of its members.  This may be little used, but it is a valuable add-on, and nice to know its there if we need it.

If you reply, please lets not have any rumors.  Lets stick to Facts only as rumors dont do any of us any good

-Philip
Editor, Professional Window Cleaner Magazine

"The irony of the information age is that it has given new respectability to uninformed opinion"
John Lawton

tam

  • Posts: 58
Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2004, 11:00:32 pm »
Well put Phil. I hope there are more readers of this post. It puts the "Fed" back on track for the people, including the non members that are having a go at an organisation that they know little about, that think that we do nothing for our members. I do not think I could have had worded it better myself. You are quite a knowlegable(spelling) person and I thank you for this post. By the way when are you going to get a spell checker.  
Tam Moffat NFMWC&GC Ex. Council Member.

BeeClean

Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2004, 12:16:15 am »
Tam i think youre adding fuel to the fire here. the fed will jump on a post that praises them but will never answer a direct question. nobody should take these posts to seriously and there should be a balanced view. anyone who thinks the fed does nothing is obviously ignorant but when they ignore questions from potential customers they dont do themselves any favours.
::) ::) ::) and phillip you started the other topic anyway ;D

riz

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Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2004, 12:20:58 am »
Hi all,

Tam, i asked on another post about the fed not being shown in the rear of the yellow pages under the "trade organisations section" could you tell me why this is.

Regards

Paul

matt

Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2004, 12:25:49 am »
Well from my point of view

i have nothing against the FED, im not a member, BUT i look forward to the Show, i might even join if i see the fed are doing things that interest/benefit me

good post by the way ;)

not sure on the LARGE bank balance, as the fed is s.posed to serve its members, P.haps a cheaper subs might be in order, afterall no need to have loads of money in the bank (please correct me if i am wrong)




karlosdaze

Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2004, 02:06:23 am »
Quote
 As other countries have banned ladders completely, not just members but ALL window cleaners owe a debt of gratitude to the fed for its representation.
-Philip

The facts as I know them are:-
Only 1 country has reduced usage on ladders. The OSB (The governing body for window cleaners in Holland) say that on July 1 2004 it becomes law, but you have 2 years before it will be inforced, in which time they will realise that a complete ban is impossible.  

poleman

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Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2004, 07:21:21 pm »
in which time they will realise that a complete ban is impossible.  

thats not the view of The OSB but your view?


andy

tam

  • Posts: 58
Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2004, 07:56:44 pm »
Riz, If you look in Y/pages under w/cleaning I think there is a section with the "Logo" and "Fed" subscribers to Y/pages, but it quite expensive for a year. Tam.
Tam Moffat NFMWC&GC Ex. Council Member.

simonb

Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2004, 09:41:13 pm »
And it looks rubbish.
If U want to advertise in YP U need an ad that looks good.

karlosdaze

Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2004, 02:29:02 am »
Quote
in which time they will realise that a complete ban is impossible.  

thats not the view of The OSB but your view?


andy

Sorry, yes poleman, you are quite right, I was quoting from a dutch cleaner.

poleman

  • Posts: 2854
Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2004, 02:38:48 am »
that ok mate did the fed sort your membership, did read that you had been waiting over a year.


andy

dorset

karlosdaze

Re: The Fed - A Balanced View
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2004, 02:40:21 am »
Yes thanks,
all sorted in the end, with the help of Fed man(Martin), Andrew Walker and Beryl!