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jasonl

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2006, 12:23:34 pm »
I woud use buffer and pads like I do in a bungalow, up steep drives, down slopes , 4 stories up and down, in and out the van 4 times a day, it makes no odds to me it weighs 20 kilos, just get a buffer, vac, rakes, pads, spraying unit, 15 years experience and you can make all the £££££££ you want. I NEVER lift a porty.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2006, 02:47:29 pm »
Terry,

I read that the other day. They used to say 100ft max. Personally I am happier with 25feet, and just keep adding 25 feet when required, I do not think I would be confident with 200 feet.

Derek_Walker

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2006, 03:20:34 pm »
Some of these high end portables are not really designed to go up the stairs due to the extra weight, larger pumps, more vacs and instant heating elements.

It may be be worth your while to invest in a smaller less powerful machine to use on these sort of jobs if you have enough of them.

The other option would be to have a low moisture system ie: Dry Fusion, Tex, Charley Pads, or perhaps the OP system.

Derek

thepez17

  • Posts: 45
Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2006, 03:45:16 pm »
dear mike,

i did a job on a second floor flat two weeks ago, and i had to call in help to get the machine up the stairs and i have a ninja too.

i did however manage to get it down the stairs on my own after the job, but it took ages, i  bruised my ankle and shin, pulled a muscle in my wrist. trust, i wont do that again. 1st floor is my limit

unless theres a lift!

rob
'It's ganna cost ya love'

spindle

  • Posts: 680
Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2006, 04:15:55 pm »
i have a ninja...........................i have no problems getting the machine up and down stairs.......but as previous post stated becarful with the dump valve catching the wall............dont want to pay for decorating someones stair case with gold leaf wall paper!!!..........i think thats it is all in the technique..............step then pull step then pull..........that said if u can have some one to help then use them
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Michel Roberts

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2006, 07:51:54 pm »
Terry, who gave you that advice?

Was it ashbys by any chanch?

I went to ashby's a couple of years ago to look at the ninja and made a point of bumping the 400 psi model up the stairs they had there and then back down again(which as has been said Was worse) it was a compleate nightmare and was the reason I did not buy their machine.

Regards Michel

carpetcleaning4u

  • Posts: 44
Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2006, 09:47:03 pm »

Hi,
Why not leave all porty's downstairs and add hose extensions  ;)
According to porty manufactures they claim that their machines can be operated from 25 feet - 200 feet distance working from machine   ;D  - what is an honest and realistic distance and what min specs would be needed to leave the porty downstairs amd work upstairs obtaining the desired results  ??? assuming of course that you pre-vac  pre-spray and aggitate
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master !!

Derek

Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2006, 08:50:24 am »
Thats fine in a two/three story property...but if you have to gain access to a property above ground floor level (ie flat/maisonette) there may not be an alternative...unless you go the TM route

Terry_Burrows

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2006, 09:24:47 am »
ashbys do say the 4oopsi ninja can take up to 200ft you would only
ever need an add on of 25ft making the 50ft in total just saves carrying it up the stairs,I spoke to a fellow cc who uses the 400psi he says best model to go with :-\
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John Kelly

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2006, 09:53:19 am »
Use a Prowler :)

carpetclean

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2006, 10:22:27 am »
impressive john 5th floor
NCCA   IICRC


name peter reed

John Kelly

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2006, 10:34:36 am »
Not mine Peter, customer. He pulled hoses up using climbing rope.

Liahona

Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2006, 11:13:03 am »
much easier to lower the hose down isnt it? best Dave.

John Kelly

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2006, 11:18:01 am »
Apparently it was a long walk to the actual entrance which was on the other side of the building. And carrying 5 lengths of hose up 5 flights of stairs isn't that easy.

Terry_Burrows

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2006, 11:48:45 am »
the power of that must be good ???
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John Kelly

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2006, 12:03:42 pm »
Don't forget Terry you also have gravity on your side.

Damian

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2006, 06:14:14 pm »
Cleaning company, how do you work your truckmounted ninja/s then? Do you have a generator in the van? Also do you carry fresh water with you? If so how do you heat it up? What length hoses do you use?

Cheers
Damian.
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Terry_Burrows

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2006, 07:06:10 pm »
I know when we get the ninja I will leave it on the van unless I have to take it off,its got the power for sure ;D
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Paul Redden Countryfresh

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2006, 09:12:03 pm »
Never had too much of a problem, I try to bend my legs and then try to lift without pulling on my back, I do feel if the handle was higher or could extend it would be easier. wouldn't it be great if you could fit stair climbing wheels to a ninja, the ones with three wheels that rotate as you go up each step.

I had one of the original ninjas fitted with a stainless steel fold over handle, which meant you could keep your back straight.

I do feel that punters should be made aware by the suppliers of the problems of adding on all the extras and health implications I've only got a solvent kit and that's heavy enough. ;D

Paul

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Ian Gourlay

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Re: Portys and stairclimbing
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2006, 02:33:45 am »
One item that is not covered on training courses that I have been on is lifting.

Is there a correct way for taking a machine upstairs and bringing it down?

Could be Im doing it wrong.

When the machine drops a level it bumps is this not bad for the machine?