[M4RK]

What should I look for when choosing a wfp system?

Thanks for your help.
Mark

[matt]

buy all the bits in, and build it yourself

DIY is the future

[Sir Squeaky]

Plug plug.....

[DASERVICES]

  Matt,

  Why don't you change your web link from free ipod to the diy link.

  Doug

[matt]

  Matt,

  Why don't you change your web link from free ipod to the diy link.

  Doug

the free ipod thing has died a death

i dont think Mike would like me to change it to the DIY site though of course he could confirm this

[stuart@skypole]

hhhmmm

build your own car

rgds
stuart

[P®oPole™]

hhhmmm

build your own car

rgds
stuart

  Yea or house, come to think of it I need a new ladder migth go down the garage and see what i can knock up with a bit of timber I have left over.

Mark get whatever you think is best for your company, think of what image you would like to have for your business, I know you can afford it ,

also mate sorry for messing you about, after carefull consideration I decided It wasnt for me.

Kind Regards
Alex

[sair]

house , car , wfp! theres always those inclined to do so . and on the other hand others employ those whos trade it is.

depends what your image wants

[matt]

hhhmmm

build your own car

rgds
stuart

hhhmmm

build your own car

rgds
stuart

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  Yea or house, come to think of it I need a new ladder migth go down the garage and see what i can knock up with a bit of timber I have left over.

Mark get whatever you think is best for your company, think of what image you would like to have for your business, I know you can afford it ,

also mate sorry for messing you about, after carefull consideration I decided It wasnt for me.

Kind Regards
Alex

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[freshwater]

Mark,

Don’t buy it just because it’s cheap.

If you are going down the DIY route which seems to be popular at the moment make sure you get a good strong frame for tank and anchor it well down into your van to strong secure points. Just take a look how strong your seat & seatbelt mountings and they are only designed to stop the equivalent of a body under 100kgs. 500 litres of water is 500 kilos and when your van hits something the water & the tank want to keep on going into the back of your head. Its all very well knocking so called professional suppliers and installer for being high priced but most of them do a good job of fitting the tank, and they should all carry product liability insurance. (ask to see it). All this DIY, DIY, DIY is all OK until you have a accident and your business or vehicle insurer won't pay up and you are liable for all the costs.

steve@freshwatersystems.co.uk

 

[matt]

Mark,

Don’t buy it just because it’s cheap.

If you are going down the DIY route which seems to be popular at the moment make sure you get a good strong frame for tank and anchor it well down into your van to strong secure points. Just take a look how strong your seat & seatbelt mountings and they are only designed to stop the equivalent of a body under 100kgs. 500 litres of water is 500 kilos and when your van hits something the water & the tank want to keep on going into the back of your head. Its all very well knocking so called professional suppliers and installer for being high priced but most of them do a good job of fitting the tank, and they should all carry product liability insurance. (ask to see it). All this DIY, DIY, DIY is all OK until you have a accident and your business or vehicle insurer won't pay up and you are liable for all the costs.

steve@freshwatersystems.co.uk

 

of course if your going for a trolley system, this doesnt aply

[Moderator David@stives]

Hang on a moment all you high and mighty suppliers, On the one hand you knock diy systems but you are quite happy to sell all the parts individually to window cleaners for them to build there own systems.

I could get on to ANY supplier tommorrow and order parts off them, and i guarantee no one will be bothered that i am building my own system, in fact they will all try to sell me most of the parts needed.

A wfp system is not a car or an house, If the prices for off the shelf wfp systems was more realistic you would see fewer and fewer diy systems.

Some wfp systems cost as much as a brand new small car.

Surely prices are due to fall, the wfp gold rush is over, Its time to get realistic with the prices.

My system diy cost about £1000, how can you wrap that product up and justify £3000 + if i bought it commercialy from a supplier.

I am due to buy an off the shelf system and i reckon i am going to pay £3500, I reckon £800 for the parts the othe £2700 will be for the design, fitting,safety (If thats any better) and profit to the supplier.

It all hurts a bit, but needs must

Dave

[Sir Squeaky]

I am due to buy an off the shelf system and i reckon i am going to pay £3500, I reckon £800 for the parts the othe £2700 will be for the design, fitting,safety (If thats any better) and profit to the supplier.

So why spend so much on the same tool for the job Dave?
What's it going to do differently?

That's like me spending £3500 on a new squeegee because it's got a nicer handle.

I'm not being funny, just wonder what the point is, if you've already got wfp?

[Fast 1 *]

does wfp stand for "want filthy panes?"

[Moderator David@stives]

Squeeky

Its not going to do anything different apart from allow me to keep my back doors wide open and show off

Also Its time for me to up my image and stand out from the rest

 I think it will pay off, in real terms it will cost half that amount after tax allowances.

Its a case of spend it or pay tax on it.

Dave

Theres some logic in there somewhere.

[paul mather]

What should I look for when choosing a wfp system?

Thanks for your help.
Mark

It all depends what you are going to use as a vehicle. If you already have a van then that is by far the best way, if not, it's an added expense.

Like Dave I paid just over a grand for my system & I've just  finished the dreaded 1st cleans with 2 complaints but no lost customers. Wish I'd  done it years ago but then I think the price would of put me off.

Give Kirsty @Gardiners a ring, she will advise you what is best for you & will not give you the hard sell, she also won't try & sell you stuff you don't need.

[Sir Squeaky]

does wfp stand for "want filthy panes?"

Or "Washes fairly poorly"

[Fast 1 *]

You didnt go to work then m8?

[stuart@skypole]

I dont knock self builds thats why i set up Skypole because i have the personel at my disposal to build the systems

Although the first one was for my own window cleaners to use a few good years ago

but making them work constantly, improving and offering after care warrantees etc cost a lot of money so when selling systems around the world these costs need to be covered for a one off self use system then it dosent cost any thing to reproduce other systems,

And im afraid there is no difference between wfp system manufacturers or pressure wash manufacturers or building your own home

DO you pay some one to build a decked area in your garden or go to a shop buy it yourself and build it yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Competant people will do the latter BUT THE SAME ANSWER COMES

ITS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So self build or pay off the shelf

its up to each person.

we are here to offer advice / systems options / training sales / aftercare / warranty / we even help people that buy from others or have self built ask grafters who is a long time regular on here.

 :

rgds,
stuart
www.skypolesystems.com

[Grafters Cleaning Services]

I dont knock self builds thats why i set up Skypole because i have the personel at my disposal to build the systems

Although the first one was for my own window cleaners to use a few good years ago

but making them work constantly, improving and offering after care warrantees etc cost a lot of money so when selling systems around the world these costs need to be covered for a one off self use system then it dosent cost any thing to reproduce other systems,

And im afraid there is no difference between wfp system manufacturers or pressure wash manufacturers or building your own home

DO you pay some one to build a decked area in your garden or go to a shop buy it yourself and build it yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Competant people will do the latter BUT THE SAME ANSWER COMES

ITS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So self build or pay off the shelf

its up to each person.

we are here to offer advice / systems options / training sales / aftercare / warranty / we even help people that buy from others or have self built ask grafters who is a long time regular on here.

 :

rgds,
stuart
www.skypolesystems.com

hi stuart
agree totally m8

from the man who built his own

jay