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james peters

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is your round really complete?
« on: January 22, 2025, 08:36:12 pm »
is your round really complete ?
no its not
that includes you daz

Bungle

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2025, 09:03:19 pm »
Eh?
We look at them, they look through them.

james peters

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2025, 09:37:25 pm »
very simple
is your round complete?
i know its not

Soupy

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2025, 09:48:18 pm »
Window cleaning?



Completed it mate.
#FreeTheBrightonOne
#aliens

Stoots

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2025, 09:52:40 pm »
No such thing. As daz says "shifting sands".

zesty

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2025, 10:05:49 pm »
Mines complete at the end of each day.


Splash and dash

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2025, 10:12:21 pm »
So what’s the point of this statement?

SB Cleaning

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2025, 06:58:46 am »
So what’s the point of this statement?
Think he was on the pop last night.

james peters

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2025, 07:23:19 am »
I was to tired to type ;D    I have put the majority of my prices up over the past 2 months.
which initialy, i thought would be great, and it is much better, on the whole.
however, I have started not enjoying some the larger properties....and its made me realise i am just not charging enough on some of these.
and in fairness , it is just a handful out of hundreds

A good way to measure this is water usage..... eg
£35 house........... I can use the same amount of water as  three £15 houses

I just find that the days I am doing lots of small semis , I take more with less effort, and use less water.
this isnt a moaning post..... its just an observation of some of MY  work

james peters

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2025, 07:23:48 am »
So what’s the point of this statement?
Think he was on the pop last night.
indeed i was

richard connett

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2025, 07:43:31 am »
I find the same. I have a day with all larger style houses in a  upmarket village. On paper it’s only 15 or so houses . I am knackered at the end of that day with n empty tank . Days when the worksheet is three pages long  ain’t as bad and can be by 1
I think the best paying days on my round are the £20-£25 town houses where there are 6 or more so from 1 spot.  I say I’m full most of the time to new enquiries but I’ve always got room for 1 more of those sort of jobs

dazmond

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2025, 08:33:33 am »
is your round really complete ?
no its not
that includes you daz

All our rounds are built on shifting sands.....none of our rounds stay the same over time....

Customers come and go,some die or become too ill to be viable jobs anymore and they move house.

One thing I've found is more and more people who are moving onto estates I clean don't want a regular window cleaner,more chinese are moving into the areas I work and don't understand the need to pay for regular window cleaning. They want one offs when it suits them(usually before a big event in their lives).

The last 10 years or so my round has changed massively. I clean less  properties but they are usually larger and priced better.Ive also dumped most awkward access jobs and any that require ladders....

I earn more on my larger property days than my estate compact stuff.
price higher/work harder!

james peters

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2025, 10:17:14 am »
is your round really complete ?
no its not
that includes you daz

All our rounds are built on shifting sands.....none of our rounds stay the same over time....

Customers come and go,some die or become too ill to be viable jobs anymore and they move house.

One thing I've found is more and more people who are moving onto estates I clean don't want a regular window cleaner,more chinese are moving into the areas I work and don't understand the need to pay for regular window cleaning. They want one offs when it suits them(usually before a big event in their lives).

The last 10 years or so my round has changed massively. I clean less  properties but they are usually larger and priced better.Ive also dumped most awkward access jobs and any that require ladders....

I earn more on my larger property days than my estate compact stuff.
I digress my statement.. sounds like you have priced the larger properties well.   
on the whole I am happy, its just a handful that I am not happy with.   fortun ately , I have good priced properties next door or close by which carry these ones .
and of course the round changes , and so all new customers will be priced correctly

Stoots

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2025, 02:16:57 pm »
I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.

I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.

You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension  flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
 

dazmond

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2025, 03:28:41 pm »
I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.

I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.

You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension  flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
 

Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.

I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?

I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....

You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!
price higher/work harder!

lal

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2025, 05:36:50 pm »
I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.

I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.

You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension  flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
 

Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.

I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?

I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....

You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!

Hi Dazmond,
Happy new Year to you & Family, just a question, do you not take on as much  F/S/G cleaning now, if regular customers enquire
about F/S/G cleaning, but your not interested in taking it on, what do you say to them ?

dazmond

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2025, 06:31:45 pm »
I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.

I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.

You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension  flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
 

Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.

I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?

I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....

You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!

Hi Dazmond,
Happy new Year to you & Family, just a question, do you not take on as much  F/S/G cleaning now, if regular customers enquire
about F/S/G cleaning, but your not interested in taking it on, what do you say to them ?

Yes I do take them on for regular customers but I space them out and not clean more than 1 or 2 in a day. I usually book them in next time I clean their windows.Occasionally I'll book them in separately on another day depending on my workload that week.

I don't take on add ons for non window cleaning customers anymore.

All the best Larry.🙂
price higher/work harder!

Stoots

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2025, 12:49:58 pm »
I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.

I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.

You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension  flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
 

Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.

I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?

I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....

You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!

Yes daz definitely more aches and pains on the more awkward windows.

My right elbow and wrist hurts pretty much all the time and wfp just makes it worse.

I'm not that old at 43 but I have worked in physical labour jobs since I left school. Everyone's body is different i guess, I drag myself out of bed, maybe it's arthritis or something dunno.

But either way I feel a lot better cleaning easy semis I would hate your round unless it was well priced enough for me to take my time.

Whilst I find I can make similar money on small and large houses on my round i definitely feel worse having a day of big uns.

dazmond

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2025, 02:03:29 pm »
I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.

I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.

You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension  flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
 

Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.

I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?

I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....

You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!

Yes daz definitely more aches and pains on the more awkward windows.

My right elbow and wrist hurts pretty much all the time and wfp just makes it worse.

I'm not that old at 43 but I have worked in physical labour jobs since I left school. Everyone's body is different i guess, I drag myself out of bed, maybe it's arthritis or something dunno.

But either way I feel a lot better cleaning easy semis I would hate your round unless it was well priced enough for me to take my time.

Whilst I find I can make similar money on small and large houses on my round i definitely feel worse having a day of big uns.

Without a shadow of a doubt my 9 years of regular weight training in the gym 3 times a week (with no more than a week or 2 off training per year) has made a massive difference in how I feel physically day to day...

I was 44 when I started taking the gym and training seriously
price higher/work harder!

deeege

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Re: is your round really complete?
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2025, 03:26:10 pm »
I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.

I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.

You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension  flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
 

Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.

I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?

I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....

You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!

Yes daz definitely more aches and pains on the more awkward windows.

My right elbow and wrist hurts pretty much all the time and wfp just makes it worse.

I'm not that old at 43 but I have worked in physical labour jobs since I left school. Everyone's body is different i guess, I drag myself out of bed, maybe it's arthritis or something dunno.

But either way I feel a lot better cleaning easy semis I would hate your round unless it was well priced enough for me to take my time.

Whilst I find I can make similar money on small and large houses on my round i definitely feel worse having a day of big uns.

Without a shadow of a doubt my 9 years of regular weight training in the gym 3 times a week (with no more than a week or 2 off training per year) has made a massive difference in how I feel physically day to day...

I was 44 when I started taking the gym and training seriously

Didn’t know you went the gym Daz, you never mentioned it…
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."