[g_griffin]

recently been using gg4. i am impressed but the odd few windows are left streaked and some seem to have a film left on them no matter how many times i do the window. any help appreciated.

[STEVE71163]

I have been using GG4 for about three months now and i find it does an excellent job. Are you diluting it

Steve Lowe

[Rob_B]

try putting less gg4 in the water, I find if I put too much in my windows streak. You can buy a measuring bottle but they are very hard to get hold of.

[karlosdaze]

Change your rubber, or turn  the rubber the other way.
Don't overload your strip washer.
Do you "S" or straight pull?

[g_griffin]

no im not diluting it. just seems the odd window is left with diagonal streaks. i may need to experiment with quantity used and just keep practising. how is ungers liquid and how does it compare with gg4.   ive given up with fairy. thanks for help and speedy response.

[STEVE71163]

You can get measuring bottles from the federation. I think they were about  a pound each and i put about four measures to half a bucket of water. It lasts ages

Steve Lowe

[The_Fed_Man]

G_griffin,

Sound like turn lines like / and \ Yes?  You may not be cutting the grease.  Read the measuring instructions and if you are sure you've got that right increase the doseage.  I don't use it more than twice the recommended proportions.  Or just add a dash of Fairy to cut the grease with the GG4, that helps.

[sham33]

Im having a few troubles with it as well. Though having read these posts it sounds like i've been using too much at once. I've been using fairy with gg4 to help see where im going and to lessen the risk of leaving a great big streak across the window.
Im going to measure the proper dose tomorrow and use it on its own.

[shinnyshinner]

Does GG4 foam up like washing up soaps I have some samples coming to make up my own mind as I have heard mixed views on this product
Alan

[sham33]

No, theres hardly any foam at all. I have to add a dash of fairy to see where im going  :-/ It does bring the windows up good though.

[shinnyshinner]

Cheers sham33 what is the spec on this stuff how is it meant to work
sorry if a bit late for specs
Cheers Alan

[karlosdaze]

Add about 1/4 Fl. Oz. of GG-4 concentrate per gallon of water. (A dilution ratio of 1:500). Or about 1 ounce per 2-1/2 gallons of water. The actual amount needed depends on variables such as water hardness, temperature, humidity, rubber quality, dirt on glass and personal preference. Some experimentation may be needed to find the optimum dose. Do not exceed twice the recommended dose.
The cost is of using GG-4 is pennies per bucket. Window cleaning expenses are almost all labor. The small cost of Glass Gleam-4 is more than offset by faster production with less effort, compared to dishwashing soaps or home-brewed solutions, for example. Dishwashing soaps often differ from one purchase to the next, leave a film on the glass (especially noticeable on mirrors), make tool handles slippery when wet and then tacky while drying, have excessive bleeding and too much foam, to name some drawbacks. Dishwashing soaps are intended to wash opaque dishware rinsed in hot water. A reflective residual film leaves a shiny surface and lots of foam in the sink are key selling features of dish soaps. GG-4, in contrast, is a professional window cleaning solution designed for vision glass and the needs of the window cleaner. You and your customers will notice the difference. Plus you can use Glass Gleam-4 as a sales tool - that you use the best professional products.

[g_griffin]

thanks for help steve,rob,fed and karlos. have been s- shape method or would you recommend straight pulling. tried increase dosage at home worked better i am going to try it at work now. thanks again             gerry                                

[STEVE71163]

Hi Gerry,
           Glad it works better with more liquid I just use the squeegee normally and it all works fine (S method)

Steve Lowe

[g_griffin]

steve you`re a gent. very helpful.

[shinnyshinner]

I took some advise on GG4 and what you can add to it and was told not to add anything to it GG4 once used a few times on the windows it will eventually brake through all the other films left by other detergents but if you start adding other detergents to it i.e. fairy it will always have that film on it, an example if you use decaf coffee and add a bit of caffeine to it your defeating the object.
Your views please on this
Cheers Alan

[STEVE71163]

I agree with Alan. I cant see the point in paying a bit more for a professional product and then defeat the object by adding something else. Also fairy liquid contains salt which wears your blade out much quicker.

Steve Lowe

[Rob_B]

I agree also. The whole point of GG4 is that it has no lanolin in it which is the stuff that leaves the film and is in all washing up liquids.

[shinnyshinner]

Cheers for reply Steve & Rob once used a few times and broken through the film of detergents used before, do you find GG4 has its own foam? And does GG4 leave its own film on the window?
When you squeegee when using other detergents i.e. fairy, if you wipe around the edges of the window with a scrim it sometimes leaves a smear is this the same with GG4?
Cheers Alan

[Rob_B]

I use GG4 as weak as I can get away with, and it only foams if I wring a scrim out in it a couple of times. This I find also stops the smear around the edge after detailing. I don't think it leaves a film at all. Check out GG4 website. www.titanlabs.net/gg4.htm