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Slacky

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This feels good.
« on: December 15, 2024, 08:27:08 am »
Just beginning to get a new set up pieced together.

It’s a bit of a nightmare in that some of their methods are cock-eyed to what we’re used to in the UK and some of their gear is atrociously priced. For example a commercial grade R.O. System starts at about £3.5K. Ridiculous money! Someone’s making a killing flogging that stuff.

Anyway my UK experience so far seems to be worth its weight in gold in being able to decipher what route to go down. So far the R.O. system has been bought for a little over UK rates and a booster pump.

Seems over here they often just plug a D.I. Vessel into an outside tap and work away with the product that comes out the hose. Not entirely happy with that method so I’m also going down the booster pump route as I’m one of those who believes it’s about water-flow.

The R.O. is about £660.00.


zesty

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2024, 08:34:44 am »
Cor what a faff, so they don’t have any van systems? They just lumber about a a RO/DI and plug in to the customers tap each time?

Slacky

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2024, 08:39:45 am »
Yip. No holding tanks, no tanks in the truck.

zesty

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2024, 08:40:45 am »
Reliant on other water supply’s all the time…

The positive is no tank in the van I suppose.

Spruce

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2024, 08:52:44 am »
Yip. No holding tanks, no tanks in the truck.

That's why those portable r/o systems are popular over there. Customers just expect you to use their water supply.

There was one YouTube video where the window cleaner did have a small tank in his van. It was around 100 litres and was there just in case he needed it. He filled it from his customers supply when he used some, much like a break tank.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Slacky

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2024, 09:00:26 am »
That’s what I’m looking in to, maybe get a 200 litre tank.

Always shining

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2024, 09:07:49 am »
Maybe an opportunity for you to set up a company over there supplying systems?
You have the knowledge and you could get everything you need shipped over there.
This time next year Rodney

Spruce

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2024, 09:09:45 am »
That’s what I’m looking in to, maybe get a 200 litre tank.

I would imagine window cleaning is only done in the spring through to autumn.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Slacky

  • Posts: 8391
Re: This feels good.
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2024, 09:20:42 am »
That’s what I’m looking in to, maybe get a 200 litre tank.

I would imagine window cleaning is only done in the spring through to autumn.

Yea, they dont do the 6 - 8 weekly thing we Have in the UK, unless it’s a retail outlet. Plenty of shops here, I’ll be pushing them, see what they’ve got arranged.

tlwcs

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2024, 12:49:37 pm »
Maybe that’s answer to the rip off insurance companies and crap suppers/installers.
A new way of working/thinking.
Good luck with the new venture

simon w

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2024, 12:50:28 pm »
Most important question is what's the local TDS like over there?  have they gt their own version of Spotless Water over there? maybe you could set up a similar business if they haven't  :)

dd

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AuRavelling79

  • Posts: 26127
Re: This feels good.
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2024, 03:19:29 pm »
Just beginning to get a new set up pieced together.

It’s a bit of a nightmare in that some of their methods are cock-eyed to what we’re used to in the UK and some of their gear is atrociously priced. For example a commercial grade R.O. System starts at about £3.5K. Ridiculous money! Someone’s making a killing flogging that stuff.

Anyway my UK experience so far seems to be worth its weight in gold in being able to decipher what route to go down. So far the R.O. system has been bought for a little over UK rates and a booster pump.

Seems over here they often just plug a D.I. Vessel into an outside tap and work away with the product that comes out the hose. Not entirely happy with that method so I’m also going down the booster pump route as I’m one of those who believes it’s about water-flow.

The R.O. is about £660.00.



That's the one I use. Just bought a replacement last month as the manifold leaked after about six years. (And the makeshift repair I did lasted two years)
It's a game of three halves!

AuRavelling79

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2024, 03:20:50 pm »
And I fill storage tanks with it and buy spare membranes and filters from Soap National.

I don't use a booster as my tap pressure is about 60psi.
It's a game of three halves!

Splash and dash

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2024, 04:08:03 pm »
Yip. No holding tanks, no tanks in the truck.


They also don’t have regular cleans do they ? Once or twice a year is what friend of ours have done in USA

Slacky

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2024, 06:01:15 pm »
Most important question is what's the local TDS like over there?  have they gt their own version of Spotless Water over there? maybe you could set up a similar business if they haven't  :)

TDS out of the tap is 59.

I won’t be setting up a spotless water out here, they don’t have tanks in their trucks.

Slacky

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2024, 06:04:09 pm »
Yip. No holding tanks, no tanks in the truck.


They also don’t have regular cleans do they ? Once or twice a year is what friend of ours have done in USA

Sounds like that’s the way out here too. I’ve seen people asking for a window cleaner since I’ve been over here, this autumn, so something happens in a residential sense, although it won’t be how it is in the UK.

I know retail outlets have their glass done regularly here.

I suspect window cleaning will be part of a portfolio where pressure washing plays a bigger part than it did in the UK.

I’ll do gutters, but only on single storey/ground floor buildings and bungalows.

KS Cleaning

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2024, 08:41:54 pm »
Reliant on other water supply’s all the time…

The positive is no tank in the van I suppose.
Cheap van insurance then🤣

tonyoliver

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2024, 08:41:52 am »
Cheap insurance the two words don’t go together
Like cheap turkey teeth
Cheap  tattoos
And cheap prositutes 
All best to be avoided 

dazmond

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Re: This feels good.
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2024, 08:48:46 am »
It's just a different business model over in Canada and America.

You ll need more customers even for a part time business but your job price will be a lot higher. You ll have to spend more time and money advertising

Remember a lot of houses will want their tracks cleaned too,inside windows,jetwashing,gutter clearing,etc. The whole job lot.

The fall will be a busy time and early spring but you ll probably have months of no work due to the harsh winters(depending on where you are in Canada)but that just might suit you fine Matt.
price higher/work harder!