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Scottish Cleaning Service

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Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« on: November 06, 2024, 08:42:31 am »
I bought a dozen cans of silicon spray, cheap as chips on Amazon. Before getting started yesterday I sprayed the poles on my 18' wfp. It made a big difference and will try it for a week to see how it continually goes. Will give result at the weekend.

Smudger

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2024, 10:35:13 am »
Hope you brought the correct stuff
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Scottish Cleaning Service

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2024, 07:14:08 pm »
Its made a big difference so I'll continue to give them a spray every few days only £4 a can.

Splash and dash

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2024, 07:19:45 pm »
I bought a dozen cans of silicon spray, cheap as chips on Amazon. Before getting started yesterday I sprayed the poles on my 18' wfp. It made a big difference and will try it for a week to see how it continually goes. Will give result at the weekend.

Make sure it doesn’t contain any oil or over time with  prolonged use it will damage the  poles , cheap isn’t always best

AuRavelling79

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2024, 10:31:09 pm »
My long lasting Xtreme 20 lasted three and one half years using lacquer a set of clamps and furniture polish to extend it's life.

A fortnight ago I relegated it to be my second pole; I cleaned, lacquered, added insulation tape and a new end section to make it a 25.

I used leather furniture polish on it from time to time.
It's a game of three halves!

Scottish Cleaning Service

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2024, 08:43:36 am »
There's a demand for WD40 or someone to bring out pole spray.

dazmond

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2024, 12:21:29 pm »
I bought a dozen cans of silicon spray, cheap as chips on Amazon. Before getting started yesterday I sprayed the poles on my 18' wfp. It made a big difference and will try it for a week to see how it continually goes. Will give result at the weekend.

Make sure it doesn’t contain any oil or over time with  prolonged use it will damage the  poles , cheap isn’t always best

In reality it makes zero difference whether you use dry PTFE or one that has a bit of oil in it. I've  used both over the years and not noticed any ill effects.
price higher/work harder!

Scottish Cleaning Service

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2024, 02:43:41 pm »
Don't think it will matter to me either because I usually break the pole by leaving it against the wall. Then out of nowhere a gust of wind blows it down and it breaks. I have now decided to lie it on the ground and try not to stand on it..

Splash and dash

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2024, 07:15:50 pm »
There's a demand for WD40 or someone to bring out pole spray.

They do make a silicone spray but it’s not suitable for WFP as it contains oil that causes the carbon fibre to delaminate over time

Splash and dash

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2024, 07:17:34 pm »
I bought a dozen cans of silicon spray, cheap as chips on Amazon. Before getting started yesterday I sprayed the poles on my 18' wfp. It made a big difference and will try it for a week to see how it continually goes. Will give result at the weekend.

Make sure it doesn’t contain any oil or over time with  prolonged use it will damage the  poles , cheap isn’t always best

In reality it makes zero difference whether you use dry PTFE or one that has a bit of oil in it. I've  used both over the years and not noticed any ill effects.


It does make a difference ones with oil in will cause delamination  over time Gardiner’s specifically say don’t use ones with oil in

CleanClear

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2024, 08:30:22 pm »
There's a demand for WD40 or someone to bring out pole spray.

A silicon based spray is sticky and grit tends to stick to it and effectivley all you do is make it easier to sand away your pole. Its recommended to use a dry PTFE spray instead which the grit does not adhere too.

WD40 do make and sell this :

https://www.screwfix.com/p/wd-40-dry-ptfe-lubricant-400ml/36613?




WD40 also make and sell the GT85 brand :

https://www.toolstation.com/gt85-lubricant/p75194

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Splash and dash

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2024, 08:33:22 pm »
There's a demand for WD40 or someone to bring out pole spray.

A silicon based spray is sticky and grit tends to stick to it and effectivley all you do is make it easier to sand away your pole. Its recommended to use a dry PTFE spray instead which the grit does not adhere too.

WD40 do make and sell this :

https://www.screwfix.com/p/wd-40-dry-ptfe-lubricant-400ml/36613?




WD40 also make and sell the GT85 brand :

https://www.toolstation.com/gt85-lubricant/p75194



That’s the one that Gardiners say not to use if I remember it correctly

CleanClear

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2024, 09:46:42 pm »
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CleanClear

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2024, 09:49:26 pm »
https://surecleansystems.com/maintenance-gardiner-poles/



And the WD40 and GT85 products i have linked to are specifically the dry film PTFE ones and not the generic WD40 spray well all know and love................
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Splash and dash

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2024, 10:24:38 pm »


That’s the one that Gardiners say not to use if I remember it correctly

https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/blog/maintenance-of-poles/




Yes that’s quite correct but I think you will find the  WD40 version contains oil ime sure Alex said that in one of his videos

colin bird

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2024, 06:39:21 pm »
Back in the day Alex g would have rocked up to advise what we need,but I think he’s moved to greener pastures now, as  I’m led to believe he now lives in the Caribbean.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2024, 07:31:26 pm »
Back in the day Alex g would have rocked up to advise what we need,but I think he’s moved to greener pastures now, as  I’m led to believe he now lives in the Caribbean.

 :D Posting from non-sunny Cornwall!!

Using WD-40 or GT-85 can adversely affect the material on the carbon fibre and cause premature wear or de-lamination. This is why such use will invalidate the warranty as posters have already advised.

Dry-film PTFE spray on the other hand is totally suitable and will only help the life of the pole.

Here is a link to a suitable product - https://alltradedirect.co.uk/products/dry-film-lube-aerosol-400ml?_pos=6&_sid=d125b48a5&_ss=r

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2024, 07:33:24 pm »
In our experience even the WD-40 brand dry-film PTFE spray (as shown previously) is not as good as other brands as it seems to remain too wet and does not flash dry in  few seconds like other brands - not sure why, but when I bought a can years ago I had to stop using it.

Smudger

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2024, 09:12:16 pm »
as the saying goes lose ££££ just to save a penny  ;D

good on yer Micky - keep on using the stuff the pole makers will love to keep taking your cash - but I think in future you should do some research before recommending products on the forum ;)
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

CleanClear

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Re: Spraying Silicon Spray on Pole
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2024, 09:17:27 pm »
In our experience even the WD-40 brand dry-film PTFE spray (as shown previously) is not as good as other brands as it seems to remain too wet and does not flash dry in  few seconds like other brands - not sure why, but when I bought a can years ago I had to stop using it.

I'd definatley remember why i had to stop using something if it was that bad i didn't want wouldn't use it again. Maybe its just my analytical brain  ;D
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