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Soupy

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #220 on: December 30, 2024, 09:12:58 am »
Soupy.

What's the servicing regime and cost on one of your electric vans?

And what's the longest you've kept one before changing it out?

Do any of your electric vans have hot water systems?

We've done servicing in house on diesel vans for years. Unfortunately we can't do that with the electric vans as we want to keep the battery warranty. We still do brakes and suspension etc. The last 2 yearly service was £130 at Vauxhall. Pretty sure they did naff all.

Not "changed any out". Have returned a few as they were rentals and the rental company was unreasonable. The oldest is a 20 plate. No plans for swapping it out until 2028, which would be longer than we normally plan to keep a diesel.

We only use drop in immersions a few days a year.
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Soupy

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #221 on: December 30, 2024, 11:45:22 am »
I love engines.

Hearing a v10 f1 car is incredible.

EVs are boring, no soul.

Sure.

A van is a tool though. Best tool for the job at hand is what you want.

Does your transit custom have a soul?

Fyi it doesn't. It's a eurobox same as all the others.
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CleanClear

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #222 on: December 30, 2024, 11:57:44 am »
If you have the correct circumstances (driveway, non ridiculous travelling distances) you can run an electric van without issue for around 1/2 the running costs of a diesel.


Does having charger(s) on the premises affect buildings insurance ?
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zesty

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #223 on: December 30, 2024, 12:10:34 pm »
I love engines.

Hearing a v10 f1 car is incredible.

EVs are boring, no soul.

Sure.

A van is a tool though. Best tool for the job in hand is what you want.

Does your transit custom have a soul?

Fyi it doesn't. It's a eurobox same as all the others.

Totally agree in the context of fast cars/sports cars.

Van wise, my custom is a workhorse, it’s reliable, I put diesel in and have well over 600 miles range. It carries a lot of weight. It’s pretty much perfect.

At the moment an EV van just isn’t good enough. Too expensive, bad range and often not a good enough payload.


Soupy

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #224 on: December 30, 2024, 12:24:34 pm »
I love engines.

Hearing a v10 f1 car is incredible.

EVs are boring, no soul.

Sure.

A van is a tool though. Best tool for the job in hand is what you want.

Does your transit custom have a soul?

Fyi it doesn't. It's a eurobox same as all the others.

Totally agree in the context of fast cars/sports cars.

Van wise, my custom is a workhorse, it’s reliable, I put diesel in and have well over 600 miles range. It carries a lot of weight. It’s pretty much perfect.

At the moment an EV van just isn’t good enough. Too expensive, bad range and often not a good enough payload.

My vivaro can carry 1.2t. It never does but it could.

Congratulations on the world's only reliable Ford.
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Soupy

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #225 on: December 30, 2024, 12:24:52 pm »
If you have the correct circumstances (driveway, non ridiculous travelling distances) you can run an electric van without issue for around 1/2 the running costs of a diesel.


Does having charger(s) on the premises affect buildings insurance ?

No.
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zesty

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #226 on: December 30, 2024, 03:09:42 pm »
I love engines.

Hearing a v10 f1 car is incredible.

EVs are boring, no soul.

Sure.

A van is a tool though. Best tool for the job in hand is what you want.

Does your transit custom have a soul?

Fyi it doesn't. It's a eurobox same as all the others.

Totally agree in the context of fast cars/sports cars.

Van wise, my custom is a workhorse, it’s reliable, I put diesel in and have well over 600 miles range. It carries a lot of weight. It’s pretty much perfect.

At the moment an EV van just isn’t good enough. Too expensive, bad range and often not a good enough payload.

My vivaro can carry 1.2t. It never does but it could.

Congratulations on the world's only reliable Ford.

It’s a 63 plate transit custom, bought it in January 2016, it’s never had an issue. Ever.

Of course I’ve maintained it, it’s had the usual replacement parts, I.e discs, pads and the odd wheel bearing etc. 

it’s been a solid van.

Owes me nothing.

Why would I buy an EV at the ridiculous price they are and lose 100’s of miles range?


Jonny 87

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #227 on: December 30, 2024, 08:18:35 pm »
I love engines.

Hearing a v10 f1 car is incredible.

EVs are boring, no soul.

Sure.

A van is a tool though. Best tool for the job in hand is what you want.

Does your transit custom have a soul?

Fyi it doesn't. It's a eurobox same as all the others.

Totally agree in the context of fast cars/sports cars.

Van wise, my custom is a workhorse, it’s reliable, I put diesel in and have well over 600 miles range. It carries a lot of weight. It’s pretty much perfect.

At the moment an EV van just isn’t good enough. Too expensive, bad range and often not a good enough payload.

My vivaro can carry 1.2t. It never does but it could.

Congratulations on the world's only reliable Ford.

It’s a 63 plate transit custom, bought it in January 2016, it’s never had an issue. Ever.

Of course I’ve maintained it, it’s had the usual replacement parts, I.e discs, pads and the odd wheel bearing etc. 

it’s been a solid van.

Owes me nothing.

Why would I buy an EV at the ridiculous price they are and lose 100’s of miles range?

How long do you expect your van to keep running like it currently is? 10 year old can get dicey when it comes To reliability, plus cost of repairs.

Then factor in the nice tax deduction/rebate you get, when you buy a new vehicle, plus 50% less running costs, and you might be surprised that a new/ish EV might pay for itself in a couple of years. Then you’ve got another 8 years or more of a reliable workhorse that costs you alot less than it used to.

 
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zesty

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #228 on: December 30, 2024, 09:14:32 pm »
Well its on 136000 miles and it still runs well, the engine will do 200,000 easily.

My plan is to buy another diesel van in the next 2-3 years. Purely because I’d like something newer. And there will come a point where I need to jump ship, but I’m not there yet. My vans still running too well to let it go.

It won’t be an EV, the monthly cost is ridiculous.

Most guys will be spending £350-500 a month on a new van, fair to say?

My van costs me absolutely nothing except diesel and routine maintenance, it just doesn’t make any financial sense for me. Except for tax reasons.


Jonny 87

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #229 on: December 30, 2024, 09:23:15 pm »
Well its on 136000 miles and it still runs well, the engine will do 200,000 easily.

My plan is to buy another diesel van in the next 2-3 years. Purely because I’d like something newer. And there will come a point where I need to jump ship, but I’m not there yet. My vans still running too well to let it go.

It won’t be an EV, the monthly cost is ridiculous.

Most guys will be spending £350-500 a month on a new van, fair to say?

My van costs me absolutely nothing except diesel and routine maintenance, it just doesn’t make any financial sense for me. Except for tax reasons.

I’ll be looking at less than £300 a month, for a 1 year old E-Transit.

Nice and reliable for 10 plus years, and 50% less running costs.

My current van is 2017 and has been great, but I know big bills will be on the horizon. Timing is key.  ;D
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zesty

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #230 on: December 31, 2024, 11:31:43 am »
It’s knowing when to jump ship.

KS Cleaning

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #231 on: December 31, 2024, 01:46:45 pm »
£46k + VAT for a Custom Sport EV, think I’ll stick with what I’ve got.

dd

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #232 on: December 31, 2024, 03:11:39 pm »
£46k + VAT for a Custom Sport EV, think I’ll stick with what I’ve got.
How much is the diesel equivalent?

When buying an ev it would be best to buy used as the price for vans seems to drop dramatically.

zesty

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #233 on: December 31, 2024, 04:10:37 pm »
Obscene amount of money! A years turnover for many single operators. For a box on wheels.


Soupy

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #235 on: December 31, 2024, 04:33:05 pm »
£46k + VAT for a Custom Sport EV, think I’ll stick with what I’ve got.
How much is the diesel equivalent?

When buying an ev it would be best to buy used as the price for vans seems to drop dramatically.



Lol
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KS Cleaning

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #237 on: December 31, 2024, 04:50:59 pm »
£46k + VAT for a Custom Sport EV, think I’ll stick with what I’ve got.
How much is the diesel equivalent?

When buying an ev it would be best to buy used as the price for vans seems to drop dramatically.
Diesel equivalent is about £37k + VAT. That is over a 50% increase on when I bought new in July 2019!