[cgh window cleaning]

lol first customer of the day today I turn up and he’s waiting to be picked up for work , got talking to him and his car was on charge last night starts charging at 1am he’s on some cheap tariff  we had a thunder storm in the night and the trip blew , he comes out this morning and the cars not charged , something else to consider , admittedly it’s not going to happen all the time but very inconvenient when it does  happen.

You can’t beat a diesel.

If it wasn’t for DPF’s and wet belts, I’d never be looking into the E Transit Custom.

Are wetbelts that much of a problem.I have a transit as do loads of my mates in different businesses and I know of no one who’s had a wet belt snap.
I know you hear of it on facebook forums and groups but honestly I don’t know a single person who’s had a problem.
Same with DPF I don’t do a lot of miles and never had a problem had more trouble with  my old Vauxhall van.

[Splash and dash]

If you use public charging points.
No good for you.
Buying from Glasgow.
Thunderstorms.

Remember this thread started with Vin asking about EV with a view to him using it.

Perhaps it’s gone a bit off topic then , but he’s the best one to know his needs we don’t know his style of work   , distances travelled etc in a city environment guess they are probably ok if you don't travel far , but once you want to start going 120-150  miles plus they aren’t suitable. Most the viable usable range is much lower I have diesel MAN TGE vans the ev  version of it has a maximum range of  110 miles on a good day my local dealer told me in the real world driving it should get  50-70 miles that’s useless this is your typical 3500 kg delivery van this is why delivery companies aren’t using them down here . We do work from Cornwall to London it would take a week to get up there 😂 and cost a fortune using public chargers

[zesty]

lol first customer of the day today I turn up and he’s waiting to be picked up for work , got talking to him and his car was on charge last night starts charging at 1am he’s on some cheap tariff  we had a thunder storm in the night and the trip blew , he comes out this morning and the cars not charged , something else to consider , admittedly it’s not going to happen all the time but very inconvenient when it does  happen.

You can’t beat a diesel.

If it wasn’t for DPF’s and wet belts, I’d never be looking into the E Transit Custom.

Are wetbelts that much of a problem.I have a transit as do loads of my mates in different businesses and I know of no one who’s had a wet belt snap.
I know you hear of it on facebook forums and groups but honestly I don’t know a single person who’s had a problem.
Same with DPF I don’t do a lot of miles and never had a problem had more trouble with  my old Vauxhall van.

My mate Jonny runs mount tune, Ford tuning specialists, he’s busier than ever sorting out failing wet belts.

My problem is I do a lot of short journeys with my round, start stop. It’s no good for a wet belt. The oil never gets up to temp in the winter.

I’ve also had DPF issues with my custom. Again cos i do so many short journeys.

It’s all dependant on the type of use.

I don’t really fancy the risk.

[AuRavelling79]

If you use public charging points.
No good for you.
Buying from Glasgow.
Thunderstorms.

Remember this thread started with Vin asking about EV with a view to him using it.

Trump's America?
British Rail?.....
Amazon
Royal mail.

All with relevance explained.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Winpro, your last two posts make even less sense than your previous ones.

Don't confuse a balanced approach to a subject being a personal attack on you just because I don't agree with you.

It wasn't 'me' I was referring to!

[AuRavelling79]

Winpro, your last two posts make even less sense than your previous ones.

Don't confuse a balanced approach to a subject being a personal attack on you just because I don't agree with you.

It wasn't 'me' I was referring to!

To whom were you referring?

[Jay Le Huray]

I refuse to get into an argument about EV van/cars but I also live in the same area as Vin and in all my time I have only ever seen 1 DPD EV van.

It was on a charging point at a Bitterne in a car park and here is the funny thing, when I returned to get my car a diesel DPD van turned up and between the 2 guys they unloaded the EV van and put the parcels into the diesel van so the 1st guy could complete his deliveries .
To be honest this situation really tickled me.

I for one am totally against EV van/cars and would never own unless forced to which I hope never happens

Yesterday I had an interesting talk to a guy (tech expert) who came to my house to reset the computer on my van and  even he said don't touch EV's as the do not have the range or battery power to complete a days work if you do a stop start job and even worse in the winter months.

I agreed with him whole heartily.

[AuRavelling79]

I refuse to get into an argument about EV van/cars but I also live in the same area as Vin and in all my time I have only ever seen 1 DPD EV van.

It was on a charging point at a Bitterne in a car park and here is the funny thing, when I returned to get my car a diesel DPD van turned up and between the 2 guys they unloaded the EV van and put the parcels into the diesel van so the 1st guy could complete his deliveries .
To be honest this situation really tickled me.

I for one am totally against EV van/cars and would never own unless forced to which I hope never happens

Yesterday I had an interesting talk to a guy (tech expert) who came to my house to reset the computer on my van and  even he said don't touch EV's as the do not have the range or battery power to complete a days work if you do a stop start job and even worse in the winter months.

I agreed with him whole heartily.

How has Soupy run his window cleaning business with EV vans as part of his fleet?

And the Hampshire Chronicle...

https://www.hampshirechronicle.co.uk/news/national/24854384.amazon-announces-biggest-ever-order-electric-heavy-goods-vehicles/

[Jay Le Huray]

I refuse to get into an argument about EV van/cars but I also live in the same area as Vin and in all my time I have only ever seen 1 DPD EV van.

It was on a charging point at a Bitterne in a car park and here is the funny thing, when I returned to get my car a diesel DPD van turned up and between the 2 guys they unloaded the EV van and put the parcels into the diesel van so the 1st guy could complete his deliveries .
To be honest this situation really tickled me.

I for one am totally against EV van/cars and would never own unless forced to which I hope never happens

Yesterday I had an interesting talk to a guy (tech expert) who came to my house to reset the computer on my van and  even he said don't touch EV's as the do not have the range or battery power to complete a days work if you do a stop start job and even worse in the winter months.

I agreed with him whole heartily.

How has Soupy run his window cleaning business with EV vans as part of his fleet?

And the Hampshire Chronicle...

https://www.hampshirechronicle.co.uk/news/national/24854384.amazon-announces-biggest-ever-order-electric-heavy-goods-vehicles/

as stated I'm not getting into a argument over EV .... just my opinion

[Perfect Windows]

Top tip for all the people on here saying EVs aren't being used by XXX. Look for this. Shows it's a battery vehicle. You'll be staggered just how many you see now you know.

Otherwise, how can you possibly tell?



Incidentally, you get higher mileage from stop/start driving in an EV than on a motorway. Why? For anyone keen to learn the article below gives a good explanation. I do (I'm not joking) one motorway mile every six weeks, so this is unbridled good news for me.

https://evcentral.com.au/why-is-the-range-of-an-ev-less-on-the-freeway-than-the-city/

Vin

[tlwcs]

I refuse to get into an argument about EV van/cars but I also live in the same area as Vin and in all my time I have only ever seen 1 DPD EV van.

It was on a charging point at a Bitterne in a car park and here is the funny thing, when I returned to get my car a diesel DPD van turned up and between the 2 guys they unloaded the EV van and put the parcels into the diesel van so the 1st guy could complete his deliveries .
To be honest this situation really tickled me.

I for one am totally against EV van/cars and would never own unless forced to which I hope never happens

Yesterday I had an interesting talk to a guy (tech expert) who came to my house to reset the computer on my van and  even he said don't touch EV's as the do not have the range or battery power to complete a days work if you do a stop start job and even worse in the winter months.

I agreed with him whole heartily.

Good job you’ve retired then eh?
I for one do less than 50 miles a day, it would only be used for business, can home charge  so would be perfect for me when I’m ready to change.
I’m sure a ev will be capable of the above but then a man down the pub says they’re crap.

[Perfect Windows]

Good job you’ve retired then eh?
I for one do less than 50 miles a day, it would only be used for business, can home charge  so would be perfect for me when I’m ready to change.
I’m sure a ev will be capable of the above but then a man down the pub says they’re crap.

By the time you're ready to change we'll have done it (if the right vans ever come up at auction!) and, have no fear, I'll be posting how it's gone, warts and all. I really want it to be soon enough to see if my stated 210 mile range turns out to magically go under 35 miles if it's cold. If not, you'll have to wait till next winter to find out.

The only thing that keeps me awake about the switch is fitting the tank. The battery has enough space above it but not absolutely everywhere. My garage have agreed to open up on a Sunday so we can unbolt and lower the battery pack, fit the tank, then replace.

All sounds straightforward, almost certainly won't be.

Vin

[Soupy]

I for one am totally against EV van/cars and would never own unless forced to

Hi Jay, not looking for an argument but would like to know why you are opposed to EVs?

The polestar 2 is a cool looking motor - fast as hell and has a 330m range. What's not to like?

[Perfect Windows]

Hi Jay, not looking for an argument but would like to know why you are opposed to EVs?

The polestar 2 is a cool looking motor - fast as hell and has a 330m range. What's not to like?

I'd absolutely love one but they are bottoming out at about £18k at the moment. Pal of mine had one and absolutely adored it.  400 horsepower, 0-60 4.5 seconds, 300 mile range (on his). Said he'd never driven anything better. His new employers have him in a Tesla, which he likes, but nothing like as much as the Polestar.

Vin

[Bungle]

I saw a DPD van today. It had 100% Electric plastered all over it. So effing what! I'm going to get 100% Diesel plastered all over my van.

[AuRavelling79]

I saw a DPD van today. It had 100% Electric plastered all over it. So effing what! I'm going to get 100% Diesel plastered all over my van.

Why?

[Bungle]

I saw a DPD van today. It had 100% Electric plastered all over it. So effing what! I'm going to get 100% Diesel plastered all over my van.

Why?

Why to what? Why is the 100% electric van saying he's 100% electric? Does it make it somewhat superior? I think using diesel for my work makes me superior because it suits me 👍

[AuRavelling79]

I saw a DPD van today. It had 100% Electric plastered all over it. So effing what! I'm going to get 100% Diesel plastered all over my van.

Why?

Why to what? Why is the 100% electric van saying he's 100% electric? Does it make it somewhat superior? I think using diesel for my work makes me superior because it suits me 👍

I understand several reasons why Amazon and DPD put 100% Electric on their vans because the people that read it know it won't chuck pollution at them or their kids as they walk round town.

And they will think better of Amazon and DPD when they make purchases.

Why are you going to put 100% Diesel on your van? How would it make you superior?

[Bungle]

I saw a DPD van today. It had 100% Electric plastered all over it. So effing what! I'm going to get 100% Diesel plastered all over my van.

Why?

Why to what? Why is the 100% electric van saying he's 100% electric? Does it make it somewhat superior? I think using diesel for my work makes me superior because it suits me 👍

I understand several reasons why Amazon and DPD put 100% Electric on their vans because the people that read it know it won't chuck pollution at them or their kids as they walk round town.

And they will think better of Amazon and DPD when they make purchases.

Why are you going to put 100% Diesel on your van? How would it make you superior?

I won't get stranded nor will it catch fire.

[Soupy]

I saw a DPD van today. It had 100% Electric plastered all over it. So effing what! I'm going to get 100% Diesel plastered all over my van.

Why?

Why to what? Why is the 100% electric van saying he's 100% electric? Does it make it somewhat superior? I think using diesel for my work makes me superior because it suits me

I understand several reasons why Amazon and DPD put 100% Electric on their vans because the people that read it know it won't chuck pollution at them or their kids as they walk round town.

And they will think better of Amazon and DPD when they make purchases.

Why are you going to put 100% Diesel on your van? How would it make you superior?

I won't get stranded nor will it catch fire.

Yeah cause diesels don't run out of fuel.

EVs are less likely to catch fire than petrol/diesel by the way.

No, electric vehicles (EVs) are less likely to catch fire than petrol or diesel vehicles.
Explanation
A 2022 study by the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency found that EVs had 3.8 fires per 100,000 vehicles, compared to 68 fires per 100,000 vehicles for all fuel types.
A global study by EV Fire Safe found that the rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire was 0.0012% for EVs, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles.
Data from the London Fire Brigade shows that in 2019, the Brigade dealt with 54 EV fires, compared to 1,898 fires involving petrol or diesel cars.
However, there have been incidents involving fires in electric scooters and bicycles. These vehicles have less stringent safety measures for their traction battery packs than full EVs.
Misinformation
Social media has been the source of misinformation about EVs and fire risk. For example, rumors have spread about EVs being responsible for fires at Luton Airport and the Echo Arena in Liverpool, but these rumors were later debunked.

https://insideevs.com/features/720764/ev-electric-car-fire-risk-safety-burn

https://alliedworldinsurance.com/risk-management/electric-vehicle-fires-a-cause-for-concern

https://internationalfireandsafetyjournal.com/research-highlights-lower-fire-risk-in-electric-cars-compared-to-petrol-and-diesel-vehicles