[Stoots]

If diesel van/cars sales stop by 2035 that means we have another 20 years at least before having to give in the the hairdressers choice of power plant. Gov will no doubt twist our arm by making it so expensive to run a non electric vehicle we are forced but until that time let the fuel burn.

[Perfect Windows]

Oh no! Looks like BT are idiots as well.



However, I predict that, even as they are phased in, every single BT van sighted by a small group of window cleaners around a handful of clearly specified areas  will be diesel.  Also that all the drivers spoken to by those same window cleaners will hate them. Even though they all drive diesels.

Vin

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Oh no! Looks like BT are idiots as well.



However, I predict that, even as they are phased in, every single BT van sighted by a small group of window cleaners around a handful of clearly specified areas  will be diesel.  Also that all the drivers spoken to by those same window cleaners will hate them. Even though they all drive diesels.

Vin

I predict that a certain moron will continue to trawl the internet and compare apples to oranges in a pathetic attempt to convince others that their opinion is the correct one. This is what narcissists do, they literally can't sleep until they get to that point! Quite sad really!!🤐

[Soupy]

Oh no! Looks like BT are idiots as well.



However, I predict that, even as they are phased in, every single BT van sighted by a small group of window cleaners around a handful of clearly specified areas  will be diesel.  Also that all the drivers spoken to by those same window cleaners will hate them. Even though they all drive diesels.

Vin

Now now Vin, we both know BT have been forced to buy these Schrödinger vans.

[Perfect Windows]

Oh no, Amazon have fallen for the EV scam and they're buying 148 electric HGVs. They must be mental. They'll all catch fire. And their drivers will hate them. And they'll depreciate. And not be used. People will only see diesel trucks.

https://www.aboutamazon.co.uk/news/sustainability/amazon-zero-exhaust-emissions-uk-electric-trucks-rail-deliveries

As for me, charging point now arranged, just waiting on the right van to turn up at auction. Thought I'd found the perfect one the other day at British Car Auctions but it turned out to be a rather sexy looking black rather than our standard white. Damn.

Vin

[AuRavelling79]

Oh no, Amazon have fallen for the EV scam and they're buying 148 electric HGVs. They must be mental. They'll all catch fire. And their drivers will hate them. And they'll depreciate. And not be used. People will only see diesel trucks.

https://www.aboutamazon.co.uk/news/sustainability/amazon-zero-exhaust-emissions-uk-electric-trucks-rail-deliveries

As for me, charging point now arranged, just waiting on the right van to turn up at auction. Thought I'd found the perfect one the other day at British Car Auctions but it turned out to be a rather sexy looking black rather than our standard white. Damn.

Vin

Colour prejudice is an ugly thing.

[Perfect Windows]

Colour prejudice is an ugly thing.

It does read rather badly, now I've reread it.

Vin

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Oh no, Amazon have fallen for the EV scam and they're buying 148 electric HGVs. They must be mental. They'll all catch fire. And their drivers will hate them. And they'll depreciate. And not be used. People will only see diesel trucks.

https://www.aboutamazon.co.uk/news/sustainability/amazon-zero-exhaust-emissions-uk-electric-trucks-rail-deliveries

As for me, charging point now arranged, just waiting on the right van to turn up at auction. Thought I'd found the perfect one the other day at British Car Auctions but it turned out to be a rather sexy looking black rather than our standard white. Damn.

Vin

That's just a mere 150 over the next 18 months and they will not disclose how many diesel units they currently use! Read into that what you may!🤣🤣
Google states that Amazon run over 40 thousand diesel HGV (or semi trucks). This would indicate a drop in the ocean in regards to their electric contribution. Most probably an effort to "Show" willing.

[zesty]

‘A range of 310 miles’ that’s absolutely pants.

Dread to think what the real world range is.

For us window cleaners, electric makes a lot of sense. But for big lorry’s, it’s almost laughable.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

‘A range of 310 miles’ that’s absolutely pants.

Dread to think what the real world range is.

For us window cleaners, electric makes a lot of sense. But for big lorry’s, it’s almost laughable.

That's a narcissist's desperation for you!

[zesty]

‘A range of 310 miles’ that’s absolutely pants.

Dread to think what the real world range is.

For us window cleaners, electric makes a lot of sense. But for big lorry’s, it’s almost laughable.

That's a narcissist's desperation for you!

You what?

Imagine these trucks in the freezing weather fully loaded trailer, trying to achieve 300 odd miles. Ain’t gonna happen!

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

‘A range of 310 miles’ that’s absolutely pants.

Dread to think what the real world range is.

For us window cleaners, electric makes a lot of sense. But for big lorry’s, it’s almost laughable.

That's a narcissist's desperation for you!

You what?

Imagine these trucks in the freezing weather fully loaded trailer, trying to achieve 300 odd miles. Ain’t gonna happen!

Completely agree!
You are not the person I was referring to!!🙂

[Perfect Windows]

‘A range of 310 miles’ that’s absolutely pants.

Dread to think what the real world range is.

For us window cleaners, electric makes a lot of sense. But for big lorry’s, it’s almost laughable.

I wonder if Amazon have realised that? Give 'em a shout and let them know.

Vin

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

‘A range of 310 miles’ that’s absolutely pants.

Dread to think what the real world range is.

For us window cleaners, electric makes a lot of sense. But for big lorry’s, it’s almost laughable.

I wonder if Amazon have realised that? Give 'em a shout and let them know.

Vin

Oh, they completely have, that's exactly the reason for such a paltry order!

[CleanClear]

Oh no, Amazon have fallen for the EV scam and they're buying 148 electric HGVs. They must be mental. They'll all catch fire. And their drivers will hate them. And they'll depreciate. And not be used. People will only see diesel trucks.

https://www.aboutamazon.co.uk/news/sustainability/amazon-zero-exhaust-emissions-uk-electric-trucks-rail-deliveries

I'm all for electric vans, i think they'll work out great eventually. But that Amazon link is pure nonsense.

For the first time in the UK, Amazon has also launched rail deliveries at scale.

We've had these rail networks in for over 25 years (that i know about) , they're NOT new. Eddie Stobarts run freight regularly up and down the Country from London to Glasgow and everywhere inbetween. So do absolutley loads of other companies. Containers from Felixstowe to Liverpool etc.... Thats all in addition to the Road Freight.

Them 148 electric HGV's are really gonna be fun. Not from a drivers perspective, but from how they will actually be charged and utilized. Drivers will love them i'm 100% certain.

The only way Amazon will become carbon neutral is to make some small fella ride a deliveroo style bike across Europe from China to deliver your electronics. Thats why they're starting to do up the 'Silk road', complete with a bicycle lane.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Someone is currently frantically 'Googling'!!

[Perfect Windows]

The only way Amazon will become carbon neutral is to make some small fella ride a deliveroo style bike across Europe from China to deliver your electronics. Thats why they're starting to do up the 'Silk road', complete with a bicycle lane.

Oh, I agree, but this is a starting move towards it. Not every problem is fixable on day one.

And I've also no doubt at all that the huge savings they'll make on fuel are a major part of the draw. Once something's so much cheaper than the alternative you can't stop people changing.

Vin

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

There's also more to this than meets the eye- just like I said earlier. It is a government supported investment! So, basically, it's incentivised by a 200 million government handout!! It's a bit like the current Octopus 7ppkwh off peak rate- at some point it will all end!

"Future of Roads Minister Lilian Greenwood said: “Business has a crucial role to play in decarbonising our roads, and that’s why it’s fantastic to see Amazon place the UK’s biggest ever order of electric trucks, supported in part by the Government’s £200m ‘Zero Emission HGV and Infrastructure Demonstrator’ project. This comes on top of our £2.3 billion to help industry and consumers switch to electric vehicles, supporting jobs, attracting investment and making Britain a clean energy superpower.”

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

The only way Amazon will become carbon neutral is to make some small fella ride a deliveroo style bike across Europe from China to deliver your electronics. Thats why they're starting to do up the 'Silk road', complete with a bicycle lane.

Oh, I agree, but this is a starting move towards it. Not every problem is fixable on day one.

And I've also no doubt at all that the huge savings they'll make on fuel are a major part of the draw. Once something's so much cheaper than the alternative you can't stop people changing.

Vin

Then comes the point when the goal posts change and we'll all be paying more than diesel and petrol. Obviously!

[Splash and dash]

The only way Amazon will become carbon neutral is to make some small fella ride a deliveroo style bike across Europe from China to deliver your electronics. Thats why they're starting to do up the 'Silk road', complete with a bicycle lane.

Oh, I agree, but this is a starting move towards it. Not every problem is fixable on day one.

And I've also no doubt at all that the huge savings they'll make on fuel are a major part of the draw. Once something's so much cheaper than the alternative you can't stop people changing.

Vin

It’s not cheaper though if you charge from a public supply if doing it from home on a 7 pence per kw at night then it is cheaper but commercial companies will not be getting cheap rate electricity, the costs are very similar , we clean the Windows at a local Honda dealership and the sales people there have said many times unless you have the cheap 7pence tariff it will cost you more to run an electric car than a petrol one