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zesty

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2024, 06:13:22 pm »
Do some research excess deaths in all western countries especially those with high percentage of population that are vaccinated
Countries with low uptake Eastern Europe have normal death rates ( 5 yr Average)
But there’s nothing to see here have a listen to Andrew Brigden MP

Unfortunately people don’t want to know the truth.

And some people want to proclaim things as being 'truth' and 'certainty' when there is scant evidence for what they proclaim.

Watch the many many evidence based videos John Campbell has put out. He has been interviewed by many on the media.

 ;D like this is proof the guy is a "leading authority" - many times no brain numpties are wheeled out just to give a "balanced" opinion

just go back the MMR - total rollocks by a doctor with an agenda to sell single shots and numpty parents listening to that rather than proper medical advice

Yes the mmr was a load of nonsense. My kids have had all their jabs, including mmr.

The Covid vaccine however, did and does have severe side effects in many many more people than it should. It’s well documented. It was also causing heart issues in young males at an alarming rate.

I am absolutely happy with my decision to not get vaccinated.

Each to their own!

dazmond

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2024, 07:39:50 pm »
More people generally die in the winter months.....

I've got a few coffin dodgers on their last legs..  I reckon at least 10 in their 90s......

Lots of people these days are so unhealthy!lack of exercise,sedentary jobs and too much junk food....

Just remember when your out and about working in all weathers it's better than sat in front of a screen all day!👍🙂
price higher/work harder!

Smudger

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2024, 10:37:53 pm »
Zesty - stick up a few links so I can have a read please
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

zesty

  • Posts: 2452
Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2024, 07:46:49 am »
https://youtu.be/Y7vTqEmlkvw?si=Y4c-_42p56Kr01an

And the other link I posted is worth watching.

I am not interested in conspiracy’s, but I find the evidence compelling, and at the very least concerning.

Let’s face it, the Astra zen vax was pulled due to clotting issues. The other vaccines had huge negative side effects, some very serious, and there were many many deaths. The yellow card scheme has never been so ‘used’.

For the vast majority, the vaccines were fine, but too many people suffered severe side affects to make it safe for all to take.


https://youtu.be/htRavAZ6jVE?si=VLUmpfbzhQq8U0fA


You can also google and research ‘young people cardiac deaths’ and see the rise over the last 2 years. Each of us has to be convinced by what we read and know. Something has changed, it’s either the vax or the virus itself, both can be right, but from what I see and hear from my wife who works at the Colchester and Ipswich hospitals, there was a definite, and I mean definite, rise in cardiac issues amongst young men after vaccine uptake.

https://youtu.be/5LLk_xB071s?si=hpA6F2UzyUA7ETFv

Of course, money talks, and big pharma isn’t going to give up those dollars. It’s a sad reality.

For me, it was not worth the risk of cardiac issues. So I made the decision to not get vaccinated.




Den68

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2024, 07:47:09 am »
Well Doctor Zesty, how do you explain the massive reduction in Covid deaths around the world right now? Haven’t seen many mass graves around the world or total wipeouts of nursing homes. So what happened?

Because it mutated. It became less severe. EVERYONE knows that.

I had Delta. Just a cold. I also had Omicron, barely a cold.

No vaccines.

Watch Dr John Campbell. You won’t be able to argue against the evidence.

I’d love to know how you were diagnosed with both variants? Do it yourself? It’s a fact some people were affected badly and lost their lives whilst others could shake it off as a cold. Customers of mine died from covid, as far as I’m aware none died of the vaccine.

Because you are not aware doesn’t mean it’s gossip, my wife’s 62 year old cousin was as fit as a fiddle died within 7 hours of having the jab heart attack.

Slacky

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2024, 08:22:07 am »
You assume the vaccine caused the heart attack because you want to believe that was the cause. Hasn’t that occurred to you?

JandS

  • Posts: 4267
Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2024, 08:28:16 am »
My mate had the vaccine then walked out of the centre and got run over and killed crossing the road....bloody vaccines.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Slacky

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2024, 08:41:31 am »
Exactly! Bloody vaccine.

PHILIP HARDY

  • Posts: 189
Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #48 on: February 22, 2024, 09:07:18 am »
Statiscally 1.2% of the population die annually, (as a total), Which means if you have 1000 custies 12 will die in any one year, A windie with 500 will see 6 off,
According to statistics this figure has barely changed pre or post Covid/Covid jabs.
It's easy to lack objectivity and get carried away with conspiracy theories but Science is Science.
The Stupid Neither Forgive Nor Forget
The Naive Forgive And Forget
The Wise Forgive But Don't Forget

AuRavelling79

  • Posts: 25379
Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #49 on: February 22, 2024, 09:40:44 am »
Statiscally 1.2% of the population die annually, (as a total), Which means if you have 1000 custies 12 will die in any one year, A windie with 500 will see 6 off,
According to statistics this figure has barely changed pre or post Covid/Covid jabs.
It's easy to lack objectivity and get carried away with conspiracy theories but Science is Science.

I know. Maybe more so as our demographic skews to older folk.

We all know 'Big Farmers' make good money from medicine but generally they want to provide the best possible solutions to stay in business, beat their competitors and (gasp) help mankind.

Just like we want to clean well, make good money and have happy customers.

On line conspiracy promotors seem to want get attention, monetise their offerings and have followers. Just like crackpot religions  and cults really.

Yet otherwise rational people want the simplest solutions and lack the will, desire or capacity to drill deeper, investigate and be prepared to drop pet theories and beliefs when evidence stacks against them.

It's a game of three halves!

dd

  • Posts: 2568
Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2024, 09:46:57 am »
Statiscally 1.2% of the population die annually, (as a total), Which means if you have 1000 custies 12 will die in any one year, A windie with 500 will see 6 off,
According to statistics this figure has barely changed pre or post Covid/Covid jabs.
It's easy to lack objectivity and get carried away with conspiracy theories but Science is Science.

I know. Maybe more so as our demographic skews to older folk.

We all know Big Farmers make good money from medicine but generally they want to provide the best possible solutions to stay in business, beat their competitors and (gasp) help mankind.

Just like we want to clean well, make good money and have happy customers.

On line conspiracy promotors seem to want get attention, monetise their offerings and have followers. Just like crackpot religions  and cults really.

Yet otherwise rational people want the simplest solutions and lack the will, desire or capacity to drill deeper, investigate and be prepared to drop pet theories and beliefs when evidence stacks against them.
I think you meant Big Pharma's

AuRavelling79

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #51 on: February 22, 2024, 09:54:41 am »
Statiscally 1.2% of the population die annually, (as a total), Which means if you have 1000 custies 12 will die in any one year, A windie with 500 will see 6 off,
According to statistics this figure has barely changed pre or post Covid/Covid jabs.
It's easy to lack objectivity and get carried away with conspiracy theories but Science is Science.

I know. Maybe more so as our demographic skews to older folk.

We all know Big Farmers make good money from medicine but generally they want to provide the best possible solutions to stay in business, beat their competitors and (gasp) help mankind.

Just like we want to clean well, make good money and have happy customers.

On line conspiracy promotors seem to want get attention, monetise their offerings and have followers. Just like crackpot religions  and cults really.

Yet otherwise rational people want the simplest solutions and lack the will, desire or capacity to drill deeper, investigate and be prepared to drop pet theories and beliefs when evidence stacks against them.
I think you meant Big Pharma's

It was an attempt at humour.

I've now added speech marks around it por les autres.
It's a game of three halves!

dd

  • Posts: 2568
Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2024, 11:07:46 am »
Pour les autres

Correction supplied in respect of the French language. Last person you want to upset is a Big French Farmer.

NBwcs

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2024, 11:24:32 am »
Pour les autres

Correction supplied in respect of the French language. Last person you want to upset is a Big French Farmer.


Everything upsets big French farmers!

AuRavelling79

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2024, 11:40:20 am »
Pour les autres

Correction supplied in respect of the French language. Last person you want to upset is a Big French Farmer.

Quite right!

Let's be even more precise ... pour encourager les autres.  ;D
It's a game of three halves!

dd

  • Posts: 2568
Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #55 on: February 22, 2024, 12:06:05 pm »
Small French farmers are probably even worse, though you will likely be safe as long as they are not driving a tractor.

simon w

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #56 on: February 22, 2024, 03:48:28 pm »
All us Tories were given a harmless placebo, commies, socialists and labour voters were given the real coviddeath vaccine injection.

matthewprice

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #57 on: February 22, 2024, 07:02:12 pm »
I have recently been diagnosed with an abnormality on the ecg  . Could have been a bad bout of COVID in the beginning or possibly the vaccines . Who knows for sure . But definitely didn’t have it  before covid .

Splash & dash

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2024, 10:27:46 pm »
I have recently been diagnosed with an abnormality on the ecg  . Could have been a bad bout of COVID in the beginning or possibly the vaccines . Who knows for sure . But definitely didn’t have it  before covid .


Yes a lot are being diagnosed with exactly the same things especially younger ones

Slacky

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2024, 10:56:24 pm »
I have recently been diagnosed with an abnormality on the ecg  . Could have been a bad bout of COVID in the beginning or possibly the vaccines . Who knows for sure . But definitely didn’t have it  before covid .


So as you’ve aged an anomaly has developed in your circulatory system? No poope Sherlock.