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ants

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Excess deaths
« on: February 20, 2024, 09:06:29 pm »
Anyone else staggered by the amount of customers that have died since 2020/21 ?

EandM

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2024, 09:09:27 pm »
I've not had any die yet but five of them, and myself, have all had unexplained heart issues in the last three years.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2024, 09:55:58 pm »
I've not had any die yet but five of them, and myself, have all had unexplained heart issues in the last three years.

Ages?
It's a game of three halves!

EandM

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2024, 10:09:15 pm »
I've not had any die yet but five of them, and myself, have all had unexplained heart issues in the last three years.

Ages?

All around my age range: 45-60

One nearly died and the rest of us were incapacitated.

I met several of them on hospital trips.

Den68

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2024, 10:14:24 pm »
The Covid jab don’t accept anymore.

Bungle

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2024, 10:15:57 pm »
Anyone else staggered by the amount of customers that have died since 2020/21 ?

Stoots isn't one of your customers is he?
We look at them, they look through them.

Splash & dash

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2024, 11:01:06 pm »
The Covid jab don’t accept anymore.


A lot in the medical profession are now starting to say the  vaccinations can cause heart problems I know of several that were fine before and now have “ sticky heart valves “ I think over the next few years the full storey will emerge

zesty

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2024, 06:57:12 am »
That’s the jab for you.  (Obviously there are other reasons alongside the jab)

I never took it. No way. Too many people had heart issues after.

It’s a jab with the potential for negative consequence.

Wife was part of the 100k nhs employees that never took it. Among that 100k were several consultants, medical professionals etc. that tells you a lot!

DJW

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2024, 07:30:53 am »
……… and out of that 100k nobody has died and nobody has had any medical conditions?

AuRavelling79

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2024, 08:13:00 am »
I had five customers/neighbours/friend - die of Covid in 2020/2021.

But as for general deaths my radar seems to be up for Pancreatic Cancer.

I know of five people personally or customers that have died of PC in the last five years.

1. Otherwise fit lady aged 70 (2019)
2. Bloke of 56 (2019)
3. Yesterday found out one of my customers had it. Died aged 52. (2024)
4. In  November another one died aged 53. (2023)
5. Lady of 68 in (2022)
It's a game of three halves!

NBwcs

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2024, 09:41:50 am »
The Covid jab don’t accept anymore.


A lot in the medical profession are now starting to say the  vaccinations can cause heart problems I know of several that were fine before and now have “ sticky heart valves “ I think over the next few years the full storey will emerge

Any links ?

dd

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2024, 09:55:17 am »
Several of my customers have become widows or widower's in the last few moths. Never had so many customers die in short space of time before - different causes though.

I think Covid is a catalyst. Could be Covid itself, effects of isolation or the vaccine - any of which could  weaken people's immune system.

Bungle

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2024, 09:58:22 am »
The Covid jab don’t accept anymore.


A lot in the medical profession are now starting to say the  vaccinations can cause heart problems I know of several that were fine before and now have “ sticky heart valves “ I think over the next few years the full storey will emerge

Any links ?

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-updates-evidence-on-rare-heart-condition-after-covid-vaccination/ Not sure that it says anything about a lot of medical professionals saying the jab can lead to heart problems.
We look at them, they look through them.

JandS

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2024, 10:37:51 am »
The deaths for me have all been some form of cancer.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Splash & dash

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2024, 11:37:37 am »
The Covid jab don’t accept anymore.


A lot in the medical profession are now starting to say the  vaccinations can cause heart problems I know of several that were fine before and now have “ sticky heart valves “ I think over the next few years the full storey will emerge

Any links ?


My eldest daughter is a paramedic and this is a discussion that regularly comes up with doctors and consultants , don’t know of anything specific in writing, but more and more doctors are starting ti see younger patient with heart issues all similar symptoms, and it would appear it COULD be linked to the vaccine.

Bungle

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2024, 12:07:57 pm »
It could be something to do with the powder they sniff. Go to a football match and there's loads off their heads.
We look at them, they look through them.

tonyoliver

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2024, 12:21:36 pm »
1600 people a day die in the uk
Check on full fact website and bbc verified
from all causes the rate has gone down slightly after Covid
 if you are unlucky enough to read a privately printed newspaper called the light you’ll see all the conspiracy theories in action they claimed aids was the trial for Covid  15 million excess deaths don’t mention that  bill gates trackers  makes you magnetic dna Changes  making people scared of vaccines now measles is back tb is back 
These are dangerous ideas that spoil lives and families polio is a killer  is Nigeria and Afghan because they tell the locals the sugar cube makes them go gay
As a last fun fact in the light there is a dating adverts so these fruit loops don’t infect our gene pool

EandM

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2024, 12:29:50 pm »
What bothered me most is that I've always had faith that what the Medical Profession recommended was probably in our best interests.  In 55 years on the planet, I've not had any real necessity to second guess them.

My eight year old had cancer in 2018 and the care he received, and still does, has been quite superb.

But when the whole Covid thing occurred, one of my customers who is a retired heart surgeon had serious misgivings about how the situation was being handled. He and two other older specialists started asking questions in the briefings they attended. Simple stuff like why were the existing plans on pandemic handling being ignored? They then found themselves and their combined century of experience and expertise being excluded from any further briefings.

After my heart issue, I met up with a customer who'd had the same experience on a hospital day trip.
They ran an EKG, a CT scan and an ultrasoound.

The conclusions for both of us  - in the end all of us - were identical:

There's nothing wrong with you.
We have no idea what caused the symptoms.
No one else has complained.

So I'd have been fairly happy with that and put it down to an unexpected glitch in something were it not for a conversation a year or so later with a Nurse from the same hospital who works in A&E.
I told her what the symptoms were and what happened and she replied:

" That's Myocarditis or Pericarditis- we saw loads of that in A&E. If it happens again call an ambulance."

That's what bothers me!

There's a good write up in The Lancet too although, like all primary media they aren't trying to link it to the jabs.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762%2823%2900221-1/fulltext


dd

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2024, 12:36:45 pm »
I know a window cleaner who had Covid  3 years or so ago and has not been able to work since due to chronic fatigue. He now claims benefits as result, he is 62. (He got it before the vaccine was available)

For anyone who thinks they have had adverse effects from the vaccine there will be many more who suffered worse from Covid.

A woman in her 40's who was in my son's Tai Chi class refused the vaccine and died about 18 month's ago from Covid (shortly after contracting it).

Both these individuals seemed in otherwise good health.

Personally I have had 3 vaccinations but am not planning on having anymore.

Jay Le Huray

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Re: Excess deaths
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2024, 01:48:01 pm »
Yes it has to be said that since the covid vaccines a lot of people have died far to young, is this because they've had the vaccine?

I can't answer that but I have not had one jab and never will, I don't trust a vaccine that never when through the proper trials and was available a couple of months after covid was announced ???

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like but I just don't trust our so called government