[DJW]

Very poor advice 2016!
Check Gov site for up to date advice. Things have changed.

[DJW]

[Splash & dash]

That’s a fair point but if it passes the MOT then it’s ok emissions wise , and not putting anything into the atmosphere that wouldn’t be present if one was fitted , but I accept it’s not the way to deal with it although Nissan uk we’re removing the DPF s and just putting a straight pipe in there place in 2014 as that’s what they did with a couple of friend of mine it was a genuine Nissan part with there part number on the pipe 😂😂probably stoped fitting them now then ? It was the only way they could keep them from going into limp home mode back then , DPF is usually fairly easy to clean using fuel additives on a regular basis especially if always doing short journeys , and or a good blast up the road every few weeks . It’s the EGR valves that are more difficult to rectify unless they are blanked off .

[Smudger]

Well done for correcting your error splash - old vivaros  were famous for the ERG playing up - I sealed mine with a coke can cut to the right size 

DPF - is basically a concrete honeycomb in the exhaust - it collects carbon particles so the exhaust is very slightly cleaner - however at some point this honeycomb can block - engine management is supposed to run the engine hotter to basically burn the carbon more and blow it out all at once (so as far as I can see not particularly environmentally friendly)

If its blocked you can do 3 things - 1 garage can fit you a new one (very expensive) 2 garage can try to burn the carbon out - various methods most cost a few hundred - not guaranteed to work 3 - take off exhaust - get a big drill and remove the DPF 

not failed an MOT in the last 3 years with mine - van runs better as well 

Darran

[deeege]

Back on topic. Berlingos are great vans and ideal for single operators with a 450 tank. I’ve had 4 now, first 3 were leased and now I’ve bought a nearly new one. I wouldn’t fancy putting a bigger tank than 450/500 though even though the payload would suggest you could.

All have been superb. 27ft pole fits inside no problem and the occasional time I need a 50ft+ pole I just detach the brush/adapter and it fits sideways.

I do 150ish miles a week so need a newer/reliable van and these are perfect for me, always get the higher 1000kg+ payload versions.

450 litres is plenty for my working day and I very rarely run out of water.

Edit:- just thinking how much better this place is when we can have these discussions without that nobhead turning every discussion into ‘French vans are crap’ and ‘transporters are the only vans worth having’.

[Arnold Palmer]

I run lwb doblos which are the same van.

650 in the back - no issues. Well within payload.

[NBwcs]

Well done for correcting your error splash - old vivaros  were famous for the ERG playing up - I sealed mine with a coke can cut to the right size 

DPF - is basically a concrete honeycomb in the exhaust - it collects carbon particles so the exhaust is very slightly cleaner - however at some point this honeycomb can block - engine management is supposed to run the engine hotter to basically burn the carbon more and blow it out all at once (so as far as I can see not particularly environmentally friendly)

If its blocked you can do 3 things - 1 garage can fit you a new one (very expensive) 2 garage can try to burn the carbon out - various methods most cost a few hundred - not guaranteed to work 3 - take off exhaust - get a big drill and remove the DPF 

not failed an MOT in the last 3 years with mine - van runs better as well 

Darran

I'm fairly ignorant about engines, I'm a Google mechanic  , but I see there are additives which go straight into the diesel tank and also some spray foam type cleaners that are injected straight into the dpf which are quite cheap, any idea if these are any good?

[Arnold Palmer]

The new Berlingos (et al) are 1.5 which is fine. Touch wood.

[dazmond]

my first vivaro no probs, this one things gone wrong from the start, clutch just went didnt help i went to rubbish mechanic  the dpf keeps causing problems, the usual brake pads, had afew other smaller things, now theres a scrpaing noise at the front, i think brake pad or disc but im not surein the last 6 to 8 weeks costed me between 3 and 4 k, i think its just down to bad luck on this van, with the dpf they cleaned it out but i think its going to come back

i was talking to my mechanic about any potential pitfalls with the vivaro and he  mentioned the dpf because he knows the furthest i travel is about 3 miles  but said pretty much all newer vans have the same problem, the dpf just doesnt  like continual short journeys so going to have to use it more for personal use and give it a good run.

Nowt wrong with my DPF and I've had my connect over 6 years.its only got 20k on the clock.short journeys all the time.

[Splash & dash]

Well done for correcting your error splash - old vivaros  were famous for the ERG playing up - I sealed mine with a coke can cut to the right size 

DPF - is basically a concrete honeycomb in the exhaust - it collects carbon particles so the exhaust is very slightly cleaner - however at some point this honeycomb can block - engine management is supposed to run the engine hotter to basically burn the carbon more and blow it out all at once (so as far as I can see not particularly environmentally friendly)

If its blocked you can do 3 things - 1 garage can fit you a new one (very expensive) 2 garage can try to burn the carbon out - various methods most cost a few hundred - not guaranteed to work 3 - take off exhaust - get a big drill and remove the DPF 

not failed an MOT in the last 3 years with mine - van runs better as well 

Darran

Think the honeycomb bit is made of titanium as they are very prone to being stolen by scumbags 😂😂😂 anything that restricts exhaust gas removal  will cause less performance.

[Splash & dash]

Well done for correcting your error splash - old vivaros  were famous for the ERG playing up - I sealed mine with a coke can cut to the right size 

DPF - is basically a concrete honeycomb in the exhaust - it collects carbon particles so the exhaust is very slightly cleaner - however at some point this honeycomb can block - engine management is supposed to run the engine hotter to basically burn the carbon more and blow it out all at once (so as far as I can see not particularly environmentally friendly)

If its blocked you can do 3 things - 1 garage can fit you a new one (very expensive) 2 garage can try to burn the carbon out - various methods most cost a few hundred - not guaranteed to work 3 - take off exhaust - get a big drill and remove the DPF 

not failed an MOT in the last 3 years with mine - van runs better as well 

Darran

I'm fairly ignorant about engines, I'm a Google mechanic  , but I see there are additives which go straight into the diesel tank and also some spray foam type cleaners that are injected straight into the dpf which are quite cheap, any idea if these are any good?

Yes they do work cat a clean is quite a good one

[Splash & dash]

my first vivaro no probs, this one things gone wrong from the start, clutch just went didnt help i went to rubbish mechanic  the dpf keeps causing problems, the usual brake pads, had afew other smaller things, now theres a scrpaing noise at the front, i think brake pad or disc but im not surein the last 6 to 8 weeks costed me between 3 and 4 k, i think its just down to bad luck on this van, with the dpf they cleaned it out but i think its going to come back

i was talking to my mechanic about any potential pitfalls with the vivaro and he  mentioned the dpf because he knows the furthest i travel is about 3 miles  but said pretty much all newer vans have the same problem, the dpf just doesnt  like continual short journeys so going to have to use it more for personal use and give it a good run.

Nowt wrong with my DPF and I've had my connect over 6 years.its only got 20k on the clock.short journeys all the time.

Is it euro 6 with add blue ?

[dazmond]

my first vivaro no probs, this one things gone wrong from the start, clutch just went didnt help i went to rubbish mechanic  the dpf keeps causing problems, the usual brake pads, had afew other smaller things, now theres a scrpaing noise at the front, i think brake pad or disc but im not surein the last 6 to 8 weeks costed me between 3 and 4 k, i think its just down to bad luck on this van, with the dpf they cleaned it out but i think its going to come back

i was talking to my mechanic about any potential pitfalls with the vivaro and he  mentioned the dpf because he knows the furthest i travel is about 3 miles  but said pretty much all newer vans have the same problem, the dpf just doesnt  like continual short journeys so going to have to use it more for personal use and give it a good run.

Nowt wrong with my DPF and I've had my connect over 6 years.its only got 20k on the clock.short journeys all the time.

Is it euro 6 with add blue ?

It's euro 6 but I don't have to top up with ad blue.

[matty72]

deeege, is your berlingo swb or lwb, do u get ladders in there, im off to have a look at a couple next week, tricky one this i spent so much fixing the vivaro im thinking should i keep it, but i thought that six months ago, if i did get a smaller van i will have to bwe more careful with my water

[Arnold Palmer]

deeege, is your berlingo swb or lwb, do u get ladders in there, im off to have a look at a couple next week, tricky one this i spent so much fixing the vivaro im thinking should i keep it, but i thought that six months ago, if i did get a smaller van i will have to bwe more careful with my water

I've got one swb Berlingo, I bought it when there was a shortage of vans. I wouldn't buy another one, it's too small. The 650 upright only just fits

[matty72]

I've just been to have a look at swb berlingo amazing you can get a 650 in there I think 500 would be ok but ladders to get over gates won't fit, poles would at angel i think.

[Ggh]

deeege, is your berlingo swb or lwb, do u get ladders in there, im off to have a look at a couple next week, tricky one this i spent so much fixing the vivaro im thinking should i keep it, but i thought that six months ago, if i did get a smaller van i will have to bwe more careful with my water

I've got one swb Berlingo, I bought it when there was a shortage of vans. I wouldn't buy another one, it's too small. The 650 upright only just fits

     
     

[dazmond]

Personally I wouldn't have anything less than a 500L tank and a van long enough to fit poles in without cutting into the bulkhead.

Connect L2 240 is my perfect van.

[Ched]

I've just been to have a look at swb berlingo amazing you can get a 650 in there I think 500 would be ok but ladders to get over gates won't fit, poles would at angel i think.

I have a 400lts upright tank in my 2019 Partner (same as Berlingo, Totota Pro Ace City and Vauxhall Combo). I have step ladders that slide on my pole rack to the top of the tank just fit. As for poles I do have a 58mm downpipe that is cut through the bulkhead and it goes into the the over windscreen storage, doesn't impact headroom unless you are about 7ft tall. I also have racking on right, full ro with booster and twin di, pure freedom reel on left with through floor rollers, Panther vac, cones and 2 gardiners backpacks plus gutter poles between tank and bulkhead. It's a squeeze but works fine for me.

[deeege]

deeege, is your berlingo swb or lwb, do u get ladders in there, im off to have a look at a couple next week, tricky one this i spent so much fixing the vivaro im thinking should i keep it, but i thought that six months ago, if i did get a smaller van i will have to bwe more careful with my water

Mines LWB but tbh the difference is minimal. I have a set of triple ladders on a rack on the roof but not inside, why would you want ladders inside? If you can manage with 500 litres or less a Berlingo would be ideal.