[Arnold Palmer]

https://electrek.co/2023/09/29/honda-unveils-10k-electric-n-van-e-130-mile-range-v2h/

Interesting if they sell them for $10k.  Worth the punt maybe as we don't cover many miles.

Looks a bit wee

[Arnold Palmer]

Something we may not have considered and which will likely feed into any decisions.

Insurance Premiums.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-were-5000-or-more-electric-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs

Just bought and insured an E-Vivaro (1250kg payload) today.

No issues whatsoever. Same premium as the diesel motors. I'm with AXA I think.

[dd]

Gets a very good write up on Parkers. Good range too.

[windowswashed]

On westcountry news tonight an electric van (vauxhall vivaro) caught fire whilst parked up and engulfed their home as well, they have lost everything.

[DJW]

Doesn’t look too bad

[Arnold Palmer]

Doesn’t look too bad

Buff right out.

Clearly not a battery fire.

[Splash & dash]

Doesn’t look too bad

Buff right out.

Clearly not a battery fire.

It is believed it was a battery  or electrical fire the video footage is being examined by fire investigators and the police

[Arnold Palmer]

It is believed it was a battery  or electrical fire the video footage is being examined by fire investigators and the police

I don't think there would be anything left if the battery went on fire.

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2023-10-05/family-of-five-loses-everything-in-devastating-fire

[Splash & dash]

It is believed it was a battery  or electrical fire the video footage is being examined by fire investigators and the police

I don't think there would be anything left if the battery went on fire.

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2023-10-05/family-of-five-loses-everything-in-devastating-fire

I am at   fire station  very close to this incident so am fully aware of what’s happened and the subsequent investigation this fire isn’t a one off there have been many similar involving Vauxhall vans

[Arnold Palmer]

One problem that we have had with the electric vans is getting people to work on them. It could be specific to us as we're fairly rural.

The vivaro has a recall on it. I've booked it in, in Dundee (90 miles away) on 07/11 which is a bit of a pain.

We had a similar issue with the mercs.

[Splash & dash]

One problem that we have had with the electric vans is getting people to work on them. It could be specific to us as we're fairly rural.

The vivaro has a recall on it. I've booked it in, in Dundee (90 miles away) on 07/11 which is a bit of a pain.

We had a similar issue with the mercs.

A lot of recovery firms will not recover ev vehicles after a guy recovered one and got electrocuted and died ,ime not against electric vehicles in fact I think they can be very good the issues are poor battery life/range  and fires at this time .

[Arnold Palmer]

A lot of recovery firms will not recover ev vehicles after a guy recovered one and got electrocuted and died

That's a new one, not heard of that before.

EVs are less likely to go on fire though, aren't they?

https://www.whatcar.com/news/how-safe-are-electric-cars/n25839



Obviously if the battery catches fire it's much harder to put out though.

[Smudger]

I have an uncle in the trade (parts Manager) - their company will not do electric vehicles due to the cost of installing loads of specialist equipment specifically to deal with the battery - don't know all the ins and outs but he said one item was a Shepards crook for pulling off the mechanic if being electrocuted ( this may of course been a joke )

[AuRavelling79]

I have an uncle in the trade (parts Manager) - their company will not do electric vehicles due to the cost of installing loads of specialist equipment specifically to deal with the battery - don't know all the ins and outs but he said one item was a Shepards crook for pulling off the mechanic if being electrocuted ( this may of course been a joke )

That's really Baaaaa-d.

[Splash & dash]

A lot of recovery firms will not recover ev vehicles after a guy recovered one and got electrocuted and died

That's a new one, not heard of that before.

EVs are less likely to go on fire though, aren't they?

https://www.whatcar.com/news/how-safe-are-electric-cars/n25839



Obviously if the battery catches fire it's much harder to put out though.

It was on the tv news a few months ago , the recovery truck driver was winching the electric car onto the recovery truck and the main feed wire from the batteries to the motors got caught on the metal bed of the recovery truck  and rubbed through the insolation and he got electrocuted and died , can’t remember who the recovery firm was but a well known one like AA or RAC

[Arnold Palmer]

Took the Vivaro-e home last night.

Holy crap on a cracker it can shift 

[Splash & dash]

Took the Vivaro-e home last night.

Holy crap on a cracker it can shift 

But what’s the real world range ?

[Arnold Palmer]

Took the Vivaro-e home last night.

Holy crap on a cracker it can shift 

But what’s the real world range ?

In eco mode 125 miles.

In mental mode about 75

[Arnold Palmer]

These bloomin EVs diesels are downright dangerous.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24360858/luton-airport-fire-cause-revealed-cars-destroyed/



1500 vehicles wiped out.

That'll be a fun phone call to the insurance company!

[Smudger]

These bloomin EVs diesels are downright dangerous.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24360858/luton-airport-fire-cause-revealed-cars-destroyed/



1500 vehicles wiped out.

That'll be a fun phone call to the insurance company!